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False because the prior Admin was changing that before he intervened to stop it.
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Frank L
(59925 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)
Posted at 11:50 am on Dec 19, 2018
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He had already gotten $500K. What work had he done for that?
He was still working for that payment.
Replies to: "False because the prior Admin was changing that before he intervened to stop it."
Yesterday was an embarrassment to the bench.
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Cole
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Flynn's sins fit the definition: "Adhering to this Nation's Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort"
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Corky
- 9:43pm 12/19/18
It's an embarrassment to all civil rights groups. On what basis Flynn became a criminal target who's
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Eli
- 4:02pm 12/19/18
Then why did Flynn lie about it? All he had to say is yeah we discussed sanctions, what of it?
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Frank L
- 7:05pm 12/19/18
BS. You're actually saying, on a murder case the court decided a murderer's sentence is not on his
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Eli
- 7:51pm 12/19/18
Why if they flipped him? If not then yeah, throw the sink at him.
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Frank L
- 9:49pm 12/19/18
He lied 'cause of the poisonous political atmosphere then & also likely his own characteristics
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Eli
- 1:27am 12/20/18
What they said on TV was allegedly based on his lies to them not the other way around.
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Frank L
- 8:27am 12/20/18
Explain how he “resigned” from being an unregistered foriegn agent when he became NSA.
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Frank L
- 11:36am 12/19/18
I love this. Ned tried to bring it up yesterday. Just amazing.
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Chris94
- 11:41am 12/19/18
Amazing how he undid the blackmail risk by filing the same retroactive filing Podesta did.
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NedoftheHill
- 11:48am 12/19/18
Sooo, where have I defended Podesta?
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Frank L
- 11:53am 12/19/18
Remember when you said it was so convenient of me that I changed my position on Clinton impeachment?
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NedoftheHill
- 12:06pm 12/19/18
As usual it all comes back to Neddie what aboutism.
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Frank L
- 12:14pm 12/19/18
"When Podesta is arrested, I'll stop defending Flynn."
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Chris94
- 12:22pm 12/19/18
Yes, continuing to engage with me will continue to show that I am fair, and you are biased.
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NedoftheHill
- 12:25pm 12/19/18
Let's repeat it again, kids! If Podesta, Hillary or whoever your evildoer du jour are Russian assets
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Chris94
- 12:35pm 12/19/18
Funny that arguing for blind application of the law is considered so dangerous to you.
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NedoftheHill
- 12:48pm 12/19/18
Here’s the Ned blind application of the same standard.
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Frank L
- 3:27pm 12/19/18
That is a 2-way street. You could post that about Chris or Jim or Lance.
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NedoftheHill
- 4:42pm 12/19/18
I don’t know anyone here who is saying that. Again for whatever double digit figure it’s now in time
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Frank L
- 5:03pm 12/19/18
Doubt it. You would just move to another partisan defense.
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Frank L
- 12:28pm 12/19/18
Amazing that arguing for uniform application of the law is considered partisan.
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NedoftheHill
- 12:49pm 12/19/18
Really Ned? You think you would be taking the same position if it were Susan Rice?
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Frank L
- 2:57pm 12/19/18
Well, Susan Rice would be a special case. ;-)
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NedoftheHill
- 4:43pm 12/19/18
You use the word "whataboutism." I prefer "fairness and consistency." TomÄto, tomäto.
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NedoftheHill
- 12:22pm 12/19/18
Of course you do, but you don’t practice it.
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Frank L
- 3:10pm 12/19/18
What about...?!
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LanceHarbor
- 11:50am 12/19/18
Exactly. You get it now.
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NedoftheHill
- 11:52am 12/19/18
When the facts are not on your side, muddle the issue
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Chris94
- 11:51am 12/19/18
Muddle the issue...by calling you out directly as being wrong on the facts? Um...ok.
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NedoftheHill
- 11:52am 12/19/18
Give us the facts again - we're not clear on them, I mean, we have the same info as you
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jimbasil
- 11:54am 12/19/18
Actually, no, it does not appear that you have the facts. You've been wrong many times.
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NedoftheHill
- 12:03pm 12/19/18
No, actually I'm not wrong, you are.
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jimbasil
- 3:05pm 12/19/18
Flynn became a Russian asset the moment he lied about the money he took from Putin
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Chris94
- 12:22pm 12/19/18
Perhaps the strongest point you make in your post is the ominous "there may be more than we know"
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NedoftheHill
- 12:36pm 12/19/18
No, your tediousness is also unfactual.
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Frank L
- 12:10pm 12/19/18
Like I say: Prosecute D's and R's, I'm good. Prosecute only R's, I'm not. It's that simple.
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NedoftheHill
- 12:23pm 12/19/18
Completely non responsive to the post contents and self serving.
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Frank L
- 12:29pm 12/19/18
Except that it is a summary of everything I've posted in this thread. Other than that....
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NedoftheHill
- 12:45pm 12/19/18
I accept that you can’t refute the facts in the post.
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Frank L
- 2:58pm 12/19/18
You mean like he didn’t owe them anything for that $500K? Love to see all the lobbying work for that
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Frank L
- 11:43am 12/19/18
Client pays Frank. Frank fires client. Franks takes appointed position. Frank must still rep client.
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NedoftheHill
- 11:51am 12/19/18
Where did he fire the client and resign from his representation before being fired as NSA?
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Frank L
- 11:54am 12/19/18
Are you alleging he did not do that?
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NedoftheHill
- 11:58am 12/19/18
Where and how did he fire Turkey as a client before becoming NSA? He hadn’t even admitted working
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Frank L
- 12:02pm 12/19/18
Here is one timeline I found, but it doesn't address your question.
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NedoftheHill
- 2:26pm 12/19/18
Again, you can’t refute the facts.
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Frank L
- 3:03pm 12/19/18
His partners did a lot for the money. You think they gave it all to Flynn after doing all that work?
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NedoftheHill
- 8:14pm 12/19/18
They did? Link the actual work they allegedly did. Also, where is the evidence of who got more than
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Frank L
- 10:00pm 12/19/18
double post.
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Frank L
- 11:54am 12/19/18
"Shockingly incompetent"? A Reagan appointee to the federal bench incompetent?
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jimbasil
- 10:40am 12/19/18
"Shocking" is lying to the Court in a sentencing memo about lies you already admitted.
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ND521
- 11:25am 12/19/18
...and then expect a smile and a pat on the back...
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jimbasil
- 2:59pm 12/19/18
Mueller won that sealed en banc DC Circuit hearing too Cole. The hits just keep coming.
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ND521
- 10:37am 12/19/18
You will have some credibility when you start holding
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irishscooter
- 10:32am 12/19/18
Why for being outraged at Flynn’s behavior? For suggesting that he arguably sold out his country?
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Frank L
- 10:11am 12/19/18
Plea deals are mere proposals for the Court to consider
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Mark
- 9:31am 12/19/18
Thank you for your BS non sequitor.
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Cole
- 9:42am 12/19/18
#2 is idiotic. There is no protocol for investigating the APNSA for treason.
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Chris94
- 11:45am 12/19/18
Except that Comey said they were able to violate protocol because the Trump Ad'n was so disorganized
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NedoftheHill
- 2:35pm 12/19/18
Did Mark bring up Hillary again ?
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ND521
- 11:09am 12/19/18
U realize Flynn and his attorneys agreed the FBI did not breach protocol sending agents to his home?
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jimbasil
- 10:48am 12/19/18
So, was Comey lying when he said they did?
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NedoftheHill
- 2:36pm 12/19/18
In fact and in fairness, what I read in his transcript was he said that in a normal, functional
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Frank L
- 5:13pm 12/19/18
I suspect the truth is exactly what the judge, Flynn and his attorneys agreed was fact.
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jimbasil
- 2:57pm 12/19/18
Sullivan is a patriot, and a very good judge, and an independent one.
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Frank L
- 3:09pm 12/19/18
Bingo!
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jimbasil
- 3:47pm 12/19/18
You're only concerned about the first part of #2.
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LanceHarbor
- 9:57am 12/19/18
Yes, if this act makes him an embarrassment, I assume Cole hasn't been in front of many.
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LehighND
- 9:37am 12/19/18
Been in front of a lot of judges have you...perhaps after Grateful Dead concerts? ;-)
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NedoftheHill
- 2:32pm 12/19/18
Keep in mind the judge has seen the classified info, and the redacted stuff
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Chris94
- 7:55am 12/19/18
Like what Flynn said to the Russian ambassador.
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Frank L
- 10:13am 12/19/18
The FBI knows that as well. Comey admitted they knew exactly what he said before they asked him.
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NedoftheHill
- 11:34am 12/19/18
Problem is that WE don’t also know. The Judge does.
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Frank L
- 11:45am 12/19/18
This is hilarious
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Chris94
- 11:38am 12/19/18
You actually make a good point here.
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NedoftheHill
- 11:58am 12/19/18
The lengths you go to defend the indefensible are staggering.
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Frank L
- 12:00pm 12/19/18
"I would rather the laws be applied without regard to politics." Indeed, that is an extreme idea.
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NedoftheHill
- 12:45pm 12/19/18
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Frank L
- 11:41am 12/19/18
Keep in mind that the judge apologized after Mueller corrected him. Incompetence.
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Cole
- 8:10am 12/19/18
Mueller called him?
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LanceHarbor
- 8:41am 12/19/18
The prosecutors corrected the judge's incorrect statement that Flynn was a foreign agent
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Iggle
- 10:01am 12/19/18
Yes, but not exactly - It's not known - at least to the public - if Flynn acted as one while
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jimbasil
- 10:52am 12/19/18
He clearly did, both during the transition and after. By the way how does one resign from being an
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Frank L
- 11:33am 12/19/18
It's not known to the general public. Just Frank L Public.
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NedoftheHill
- 11:35am 12/19/18
Wanna adress the issue? You can’t.
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Frank L
- 11:39am 12/19/18
So, you are alleging that he was an unpaid agent for Turkey while he was APNSA?
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NedoftheHill
- 11:47am 12/19/18
False because the prior Admin was changing that before he intervened to stop it.
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Frank L
- 11:50am 12/19/18
Maybe he gave a speech? I hear you can get up to $750k for doing that.
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NedoftheHill
- 12:44pm 12/19/18
Another great non answer.
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Frank L
- 3:03pm 12/19/18
It demonstrates that Clinton got $700k checks...from the Russians no less. Flynn didn't.
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NedoftheHill
- 8:25pm 12/19/18
And if Clinton had won, and Bill was calling the Russian spy chief to undermine a R administration
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Frank L
- 9:44pm 12/19/18
Want a great laugh?
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Rooney
- 8:48am 12/19/18
Fantastic.
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Chris94
- 11:41am 12/19/18
I haven’t posted on this for that reason, but I will say......
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BaronVonZemo
- 10:26am 12/19/18
Working on behalf of foreign government while being APNSA is in fact treason, in my view. Sorry!
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Chris94
- 11:42am 12/19/18
Mark, as a board moderator with a habit of trying to correct me, will you correct Chris?
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Cole
- 12:31pm 12/19/18
Good thing that never happened, then.
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NedoftheHill
- 11:45am 12/19/18
No, he took their money and they expected nothing for it. That's how it works alright.
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Chris94
- 11:46am 12/19/18
Do you know when he took their money? That's an honest question. Not looking to make a point.
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NedoftheHill
- 12:43pm 12/19/18
Reports I've seen said negotiations for Turks to pay him happened two weeks after the GOP convention
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Chris94
- 1:33pm 12/19/18
Hmmm. [Edit: I found a timeline, with additional facts.]
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NedoftheHill
- 1:46pm 12/19/18
But he tried to get Gulen extradited when he was NSA. That is the key problem.
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Chris94
- 3:15pm 12/19/18
Mueller didn’t allege treason, and the judge walked his comments back. That is ridiculous for the
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BaronVonZemo
- 11:09pm 12/19/18
Link? I wouldn't be shocked if he did. He obviously liked Erdogan's regime.
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NedoftheHill
- 8:29pm 12/19/18
Ah finally the expected "whataboutism" arrives. I was holding my breath.
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jimbasil
- 10:54am 12/19/18
I don't think mentioning the word "whataboutism" is as effective as you think it is.
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NedoftheHill
- 11:44am 12/19/18
Effective enough for you to give us your distinction -
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jimbasil
- 11:53am 12/19/18
Everytime you say "whataboutism" you undermine your position by calling attention to unfair law enf.
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NedoftheHill
- 12:42pm 12/19/18
yeah, no, only in your mind.
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jimbasil
- 2:53pm 12/19/18
Judge Sullivan's comments were not at all unfair
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Mark
- 11:52am 12/19/18
Lawfair is no fan of Trump. And even they say the comments were "grossly inappropriate."
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Cole
- 1:00pm 12/19/18
Technically, Mark did not refer to the unfair comments. He referred to other comments.
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NedoftheHill
- 1:45pm 12/19/18
I never said the comments you reference were unfair. I agree with your post.
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NedoftheHill
- 12:41pm 12/19/18
Haha. Just like Pirro.
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LanceHarbor
- 9:07am 12/19/18
Lancey so smart.
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Cole
- 8:46am 12/19/18
Cole so stupid.
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jimbasil
- 10:54am 12/19/18