And don't forget McConnell as a general rule needs to get Trump's blessing on everything.

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And don't forget McConnell as a general rule needs to get Trump's blessing on everything.

Author: LehighND (7534 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:21 pm on Mar 17, 2019

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Hence, the controversy about the vote on the National Emergency. Remember that McConnell would not let the resolution that would have ended the shutdown get voted on in the Senate? Simply because he knew Trump didn't like it?

Ned is picking a technical nit here. It's not literally inaccurate, but it is departure on how we have apportioned responsibility for legislative initiatives of the president in the past.

Obama didn't pass the ACA, and yet it is called Obamacare.

Are you kind?

Replies to: "And don't forget McConnell as a general rule needs to get Trump's blessing on everything."

R.I.P. USA cause of death: Suicide - CapeIrish - 12:02pm 3/15/19 (70) [View All]
- On the other hand, it's politically suicide for politicians to address debts issue. US suicide vs - Eli - 2:32pm 3/15/19
  - all Your comments are spot on.....However the ‘catalyst’, first step, is - IrishMikeR - 1:21pm 3/16/19
  - Need a balanced budget amendment [NT] - NedoftheHill - 2:38pm 3/15/19
- Confiteor deu... according to Alan Greenspan this morning... I am the problem! - Curly1918 - 2:03pm 3/15/19
- In 2018, the US churned out $20.5 trillion in goods and labor (i.e. GDP). US Debt is $22 trillion. - Cole - 1:27pm 3/15/19
  - Hmm...Cole: 1, Forget about US' $128 trillion worth. That's paper wealth, not gold. 2, 43% of GDP - Eli - 2:24pm 3/15/19
    - Ok, so use total fossil fuel resources owned by the Federal government alone. - Cole - 2:32pm 3/15/19
      - Liberal. [NT] - Frank L - 4:36pm 3/15/19
  - Except in times of signficant war, I see no reason for our country to take on debt. It's bad policy - WestCoastIrishFan - 1:56pm 3/15/19
    - I want to be clear: I disagree with our debt which is driven by wasteful spending and entitlements. - Cole - 2:00pm 3/15/19
      - You're about as sincere as the Freedom Caucus. [NT] - ND521 - 2:24pm 3/15/19
        Wow. Glowing praise! [NT] - NedoftheHill - 2:40pm 3/15/19
        Hey, in that case I'll even throw in the Tea Party. [NT] - ND521 - 2:58pm 3/15/19
        Don't forget the Whigs! [NT] - NedoftheHill - 3:06pm 3/15/19
  - You led the Obama-is-spending-irresponsibly charge. - Chris94 - 1:33pm 3/15/19
    - Hmm, mindless, partisan, and hack all come to mind. He also led the Obama is a dictator charge. [NT] - Frank L - 2:14pm 3/15/19
    - You misread my post. I do not agree with wasteful spending. Tom Coburn is one of the - Cole - 1:37pm 3/15/19
      - Don had both houses of Congress yet managed to increase the debt and the trade deficit. [NT] - ND521 - 2:37pm 3/15/19
        It's the one thing upon which the D's and R's agree. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 2:42pm 3/15/19
        *some Ds. Jerry Brown ran a surplus and put money in a rainy day fund much to chagrin of many - ND521 - 3:25pm 3/15/19
        Higher percent of R's than D's are fiscal conservatives, but that doesn't seem to matter these days. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 12:22am 3/16/19
        
        He did not have 60 votes in the Senate to deal with entitlement reform. It was therefore a non- - Cole - 2:41pm 3/15/19
        Lol. Spending cuts required 50 votes + the evangelical poodle. [NT] - ND521 - 2:52pm 3/15/19
        "The Senate is barred from using reconciliation to pass any bill that targets Social Security, [LINK] - Cole - 3:04pm 3/15/19
        Spending cuts = tax cuts, right ? Conveniently forgot about that mantra already. [NT] - ND521 - 3:33pm 3/15/19
      - Until there is a D prez and then the sky will be falling like its 2010 again. [NT] - Frank L - 2:17pm 3/15/19
        Is that a threat? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 10:26pm 3/15/19
        That the Tea Party will again become fiscal restraint hawks? Sounds like more of a prediction - Frank L - 11:46am 3/17/19
        You just said that you wanted the sky to fall if the D's win. That's a threat. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 12:11am 3/18/19
      - It wasn't nonsense, though, in 2010. Then it was real. - Chris94 - 1:40pm 3/15/19
        actually, no. I'm very worried about the debt, regardless of who is in the white house. I'd rather - WestCoastIrishFan - 1:54pm 3/15/19
        * [NT] - Frank L - 3:42pm 3/15/19
        
        Yep, Cape, CC, and you are consistent on this topic. Much better than the hacks like Cole. [NT] - Frank L - 2:27pm 3/15/19
        I use facts, You use insults. You are up to 4 insults in 1 thread. Trying to set a record? [NT] - Cole - 2:33pm 3/15/19
        Fact: you only care about this issue for political advantage. [NT] - Frank L - 4:34pm 3/15/19
        Fact: Orange has increased the deficit by an unfunded tax cut and no reduction in entitlements. [NT] - Frank L - 5:11pm 3/15/19
        You don't think the GOP Congress had anything to do with that? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 10:23pm 3/15/19
        Yeah they passed what HE ran on and wanted, [NT] - Frank L - 11:50am 3/17/19
        
        Not from the way Trump takes credit for it. [NT] - LehighND - 10:17am 3/16/19
        Do what I do. - NedoftheHill - 11:54pm 3/16/19
        
        Fact: Orange has increased our trade deficit. [NT] - Frank L - 5:12pm 3/15/19
        What did he do to cause that? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 10:23pm 3/15/19
        Increased spending, reduced taxes. - LehighND - 10:19am 3/16/19
        Interesting. I thought the GOP Congress did that. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 11:57pm 3/16/19
        Really by passing HIS signature piece of legislation that he ran on and brags about all the time? - Frank L - 11:52am 3/17/19
        Are you saying Trump's signature law increased trade deficits?...or increased spending & reduced tax [NT] - NedoftheHill - 12:16am 3/18/19
        
        And don't forget McConnell as a general rule needs to get Trump's blessing on everything. - LehighND - 12:21pm 3/17/19
        Obama advocated for ACA. Trump didn't advocate for higher trade deficits. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 12:14am 3/18/19
        Frank says the GOP does whatever Trump wants, so they must have approved the national emergency. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 12:17am 3/18/19
        You are the best nit picker in the world. You know that I meant that a bill didn't get out of there - Frank L - 9:57am 3/18/19
        
        Fact: Despite his isolationism, Orange has increased the deficit with military spending. [NT] - Frank L - 5:15pm 3/15/19
        Did the GOP Congress have anything to do with that? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 10:25pm 3/15/19
        The old Bush playbook. It wasn't Bush's fault Congress didn't stop him from invading Iraq! - LehighND - 10:21am 3/16/19
        I don't get that. You act like Congress passed Trump's budget, and POTUS has the power of the purse. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 11:56pm 3/16/19
        He has the power of the veto. R’s also control both houses. Doesn’t pass without his okay. - Frank L - 11:48am 3/17/19
        True, but I don't think that supports your point. - NedoftheHill - 12:51pm 3/17/19
        Except the GOP does DO EXACTLY what he wants. They also controlled both houses. - Frank L - 1:03pm 3/17/19
        We both know that is not true. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 12:12am 3/18/19
        That a spending bill didn’t get out of there in two years without his approval? - Frank L - 10:00am 3/18/19
        
        Fact: you skewered Obama for the same type of unbridled spending you excuse in Trump. [NT] - Frank L - 5:19pm 3/15/19
        Both parties suck on that issue, which makes it a non-issue. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 10:25pm 3/15/19
        All humans are flawed. Charles Manson, Mother Theresa... Murder is a non-issue. [NT] - LehighND - 10:23am 3/16/19
        Good call. Republicans are clearly the Mother Theresa in this analogy. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 11:55pm 3/16/19
        Yes they are such innocents in ballooning the debt. [NT] - Frank L - 11:49am 3/17/19
        You didn't get Lehigh's analogy? He didn't say MT was innocent. Everyone is flawed. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 12:13am 3/18/19
        Compared to Manson she is, although not perfect. [NT] - Frank L - 8:15am 3/18/19
        
        Correct and incorrect. [NT] - Frank L - 10:07am 3/16/19
        
        Sure, Cole. You cherry-pick and skew facts to fit your narrative [NT] - ND521 - 3:00pm 3/15/19
- So nonpartisan of you. - LehighND - 1:15pm 3/15/19
- Yep, on this you are entirely correct. [NT] - Frank L - 12:25pm 3/15/19