For some sure. For most center right R’s though the loss of their private option

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For some sure. For most center right R’s though the loss of their private option

Author: Frank L (60679 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 11:33 am on Jul 31, 2019

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is the driving force.

The D’s will go down, not just in flames, but in a nuclear blast if they run on that.

I really think a moderate like Biden or Amy could get a deal that would work on this.

But nah, play right into the Orange playbook just when there are signs that his BS is wearing off in a big way with swing voters.

Replies to: "For some sure. For most center right R’s though the loss of their private option"

The impact of Medicare-for-all would be a transfer of wealth from caucasians to people of color - Curly1918 - 8:07am 7/31/19 (41) [View All]
- The race element has nothing to do with it. - Frank L - 10:03am 7/31/19
  - The race element has a lot to do with opposition to it - Chris94 - 11:14am 7/31/19
    - Nonsense - Iggle - 1:34pm 7/31/19
    - please share for me a few sources that race is the underlying critique of medicare for all other tha - WestCoastIrishFan - 11:35am 7/31/19
      - Curly merely stated what lots of people believe - Chris94 - 11:59am 7/31/19
        Until his post, I don't recall ever hearing anyone mention it being a race issue. All I've heard an - WestCoastIrishFan - 12:27pm 7/31/19
        Rarely are such things stated - Chris94 - 1:25pm 7/31/19
        you hear what you want to hear. Just show me some links to anyone other than curly calling it a rac - WestCoastIrishFan - 1:46pm 7/31/19
        This is not a new idea. [NT] [LINK] - Chris94 - 1:53pm 7/31/19
        
        Me neither honestly. [NT] - Frank L - 12:50pm 7/31/19
    - For some sure. For most center right R’s though the loss of their private option - Frank L - 11:33am 7/31/19
  - Fair enough... but is opposing Medicare-for-All racist? [NT] - Curly1918 - 10:21am 7/31/19
    - Of course not. The problem is everyone looks at issues through the prism of race. - Frank L - 10:30am 7/31/19
      - We evolved in congresses and then tribes (that's also the underlying genesis of football rivalries). - Curly1918 - 10:40am 7/31/19
- Holy shit, dude - Nigel Tufnel - 9:54am 7/31/19
  - There's not too much to unpack, actually. - Chris94 - 10:58am 7/31/19
  - Ok... go ahead... unwrap. Or are these issues that cause you anxiety|? [NT] - Curly1918 - 10:22am 7/31/19
    - When considering Medicare For All - Nigel Tufnel - 10:42am 7/31/19
- I think we all admire those who make up facts and then pontificate. - Chris94 - 9:27am 7/31/19
  - So do you disagree that Medicare-for-all would have a disparate negative impact on white folks? - Curly1918 - 10:31am 7/31/19
    - You continue to prove my point. Social policy, to rubes, is race policy. [NT] - Chris94 - 10:56am 7/31/19
  - Do you run a business with employees? If not you don’t know what you are talking about. [NT] - PBHangingChad - 9:55am 7/31/19
    - This is a great post. Thanks for educating me. [NT] - Chris94 - 10:56am 7/31/19
    - I have over 30. So what? - Frank L - 10:05am 7/31/19
      - Orange has no alternative but at least you admit that Obamacare screwed small business [NT] - PBHangingChad - 10:29am 7/31/19
        Of course it did. Where all the premium increases got dumped. Small group market. - Frank L - 10:32am 7/31/19
        Anecdotally, we saw the opposite. - LehighND - 11:03am 7/31/19
        Our old policy covered an employee with HIV now they won’t. What happened to your deductibles? - PBHangingChad - 4:01pm 7/31/19
        
        Dunno yer state’s market. Ours doubled when we were literally down to one writer for the state. - Frank L - 11:37am 7/31/19
- you mean medicare for all won't provide the same quality as your private insurance? [NT] - WestCoastIrishFan - 8:40am 7/31/19
  - In your world, does private insurance cover 100% of medical costs? - conorlarkin - 9:30am 7/31/19
    - no, it doesn't, nor should it. Everyone should have some skin in the game, and those with lifestyle - WestCoastIrishFan - 10:38am 7/31/19
- Very substantive debate last night. I do not watch CNN, but they did a good job with questions. - conorlarkin - 8:12am 7/31/19
  - Don Lemon came across as a buffoon, not surprising [NT] - ColeyO - 11:23am 7/31/19
    - Oog make fire. He is the Hannity of the lefty media. [NT] - Frank L - 4:24pm 7/31/19
  - The Pirates/Reds brawl was far more enthralling... and meaningful - Curly1918 - 10:42am 7/31/19
  - You're just a parody account at this point, right? - jakers - 9:39am 7/31/19
    - Here is the transcript — [LINK] - conorlarkin - 10:09am 7/31/19
      - As usual, a great response from you. [NT] - jakers - 11:11am 7/31/19
  - I was fascinated by all of the comments by Warren and others that green energy is going to lead to - WestCoastIrishFan - 8:44am 7/31/19
    - I pray for a Trump Warren debate. Must see TV. [NT] - PBHangingChad - 9:58am 7/31/19