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Did something happen in the tradewar today?
Author:
NedoftheHill
(41546 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)
Posted at 10:03 pm on Aug 14, 2019
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
Replies to: "Did something happen in the tradewar today?"
Dow drops 800. Yield curve inverted. Trump immediately blames someone else.
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LehighND
- 4:32pm 8/14/19
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Disgraceful
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Nigel Tufnel
- 8:15am 8/15/19
His instincts are correct. His mouth is a fire hose of BS and narcissism. If he would STFU it would
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PBHangingChad
- 9:28am 8/15/19
His instincts are shit.
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Chris94
- 10:48am 8/15/19
He got elected. His policies are good. His own words betray him
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PBHangingChad
- 12:10pm 8/15/19
His political instincts are obviously great. Economic instincts...not so much.
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Chris94
- 12:12pm 8/15/19
Please explain. Don’t tell me about his stupid comments
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PBHangingChad
- 12:17pm 8/15/19
He is a protectionist
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Chris94
- 12:53pm 8/15/19
Real protectionism has never really been tried.
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NedoftheHill
- 1:20pm 8/15/19
Like most govt interference it ends up bad. In the short term, I guess you can make an
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Frank L
- 1:30pm 8/15/19
The trade wars are easy to win comment may really haunt him.
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Frank L
- 11:14am 8/15/19
Read my post again. We need to take on China he knows that. If he shuts his mouth it will work
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PBHangingChad
- 12:12pm 8/15/19
What do you mean take on China? In an all existential trade war right now?
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Frank L
- 1:15pm 8/15/19
I hate latching onto a soundbite, though.
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LehighND
- 11:18am 8/15/19
Campaigns are sound bites. And that one was no gaffe. He believed it.
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Frank L
- 11:25am 8/15/19
OK, so now I'm curious. Which soundbite are you guys talking about.
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NedoftheHill
- 12:06pm 8/15/19
"Trade wars are easy to win."
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LehighND
- 12:46pm 8/15/19
It was an honest question. Not trying to trap you. I don't follow Trump's tweets.
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NedoftheHill
- 1:14pm 8/15/19
Jumping in I acknowledged he’s a dope. But I still insist the policy of taking on China now is sound
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PBHangingChad
- 12:50pm 8/15/19
One can take that position. Just don’t claim that it’s going to be easy to win to get votes.
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Frank L
- 1:13pm 8/15/19
There is no such thing as leadership.
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Curly1918
- 10:29pm 8/14/19
Actually I dont think that is true for Trump
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WoodstockIrish
- 10:48am 8/15/19
you have for the last 60 years
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Hank the Tank
- 10:03pm 8/14/19
No. I really haven't.
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LehighND
- 10:39pm 8/14/19
if only the rich benefit from the market, should the 99% rejoice?
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WestCoastIrishFan
- 6:26pm 8/14/19
Uhm no. The rich benefit the most by many times. Lots of pension and institutional money there,
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Frank L
- 6:31pm 8/14/19
be sure to share your perspective with your liberal friends
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WestCoastIrishFan
- 6:49pm 8/14/19
I’m a sharing person. Just the way I roll. All are entitled to my views.
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Frank L
- 7:53pm 8/14/19
Yadda yadda this is a continuation of Obama's economy except when the Dow drops.
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Cole
- 5:56pm 8/14/19
Indeed. Trump has enjoyed the fruits of the Obama Recovery Wave.
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conorlarkin
- 7:24pm 8/14/19
Au contraire. There is a lot of good economic discussion going on here.
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LehighND
- 6:05pm 8/14/19
Yes, we recovered from your first post starting this thread.
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Cole
- 9:21am 8/15/19
Money is pouring into the US since most of Europe and Japan have negative bond rates
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PBHangingChad
- 5:42pm 8/14/19
How does that relate to today's sell-off.
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LehighND
- 5:49pm 8/14/19
See my response below. At 1.6 on the US 10 yr money flowing into the US pushing dollar higher
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PBHangingChad
- 5:54pm 8/14/19
How does that relate to today's sell-off.
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LehighND
- 5:57pm 8/14/19
Because it’s contagion that will reduce US corporate revenues as the world slides into a recession
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PBHangingChad
- 6:05pm 8/14/19
I think I get it.
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LehighND
- 6:11pm 8/14/19
There are great US companies that meet our consumer demand. Export companies will get hurt. Dollar
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PBHangingChad
- 6:14pm 8/14/19
Good stuff.
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LehighND
- 10:44pm 8/14/19
Bonds up stocks down.
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Frank L
- 5:50pm 8/14/19
That's where I get confused.
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LehighND
- 5:56pm 8/14/19
It seems complicated but it isn’t. Right now we are the safest place to park their cash.
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Frank L
- 6:34pm 8/14/19
That's not the tricky part
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LehighND
- 9:39pm 8/14/19
Because when the bond market goes up, stocks go down. They aren’t interested in investing in
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Frank L
- 8:46am 8/15/19
Let's look at it like a math problem.
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LehighND
- 11:25am 8/15/19
Because bonds are always seen as a safe haven when there is a bear market.
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Frank L
- 11:30am 8/15/19
It’s about algorithms. Computers sell a reverse yield signal. Look at Qtr returns for US company’s.
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PBHangingChad
- 6:08pm 8/14/19
Fun fact - there are like nine states who will be near bankruptcy even if a mild recession hits us
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Hank Scorpio
- 4:59pm 8/14/19
This is the problem. There’s no cushion this time. We are QE, easy money tapped out.
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Frank L
- 5:01pm 8/14/19
May have to go back to Obama’s zero rate environment
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PBHangingChad
- 5:43pm 8/14/19
We aren’t that far off of it already. A decent, growing economy should be able to absorb mild rate
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Frank L
- 5:45pm 8/14/19
Have you been watching what’s going on in EU countries, Japan, China, Argentina?
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PBHangingChad
- 5:52pm 8/14/19
He doesn't lead. He watches Fox and he tweets.
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golfernot
- 4:44pm 8/14/19
While I totally agree... I feel that leadership is a myth
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Curly1918
- 10:19pm 8/14/19
Would it be something if a POTUS had a press conference after something like that: "It's my fault."
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NedoftheHill
- 4:36pm 8/14/19
Baron could write an honest speech for him that would be defensible and noble.
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LehighND
- 4:40pm 8/14/19
The trade war didn’t cause this. Germany and others are in a recession with negative yields
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PBHangingChad
- 5:45pm 8/14/19
Those negative yields didn't just happen today.
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LehighND
- 5:50pm 8/14/19
Did something happen in the tradewar today?
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NedoftheHill
- 10:03pm 8/14/19
Apparently so. Germany went into recession.
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LehighND
- 10:36pm 8/14/19
No the German economic data on Monday confirmed they are in a recession
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PBHangingChad
- 5:58pm 8/14/19
How does that relate to today's sell-off.
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LehighND
- 6:02pm 8/14/19
Look at some of my posts above. We are the cleanest shirt in a dirty laundry basket. But their dirt
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PBHangingChad
- 6:10pm 8/14/19
Let's hope our rates are high enough to be able to cut them adequately.
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LehighND
- 6:14pm 8/14/19
Our rates are still on the positive side but not by much. Still better than being negative.
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PBHangingChad
- 6:18pm 8/14/19
Maybe not caused. But it has contributed. A lot of this is confidence or lack thereof.
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Frank L
- 5:49pm 8/14/19
I’ll grant you his stupid and mostly idiotic texts are not helping. Like calling off the tariffs a
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PBHangingChad
- 6:00pm 8/14/19
Pretty good. But too many big words for Orange.
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golfernot
- 4:49pm 8/14/19
Some numbers:
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LINK
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Chris94
- 4:35pm 8/14/19
Bush.
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Cole
- 5:52pm 8/14/19