He is certain to be impeached now.

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He is certain to be impeached now.

Author: Chris94 (36795 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:39 am on Sep 25, 2019

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Removing him will be a very tall order, of course. The House is the grand jury; the Senate is the jury.

13 Senate Republicans would have to say that enough's enough. Seems quite unlikely.

Replies to: "He is certain to be impeached now."

Okay, game on. Looks like Orange did ask the Ukrainian Prez to investigate Biden days after freezing [LINK] - Frank L - 10:10am 9/25/19 (97) [View All]
- Game is over. Where're those so-called "pressure", "promise"...as exposed by whistleblower? Biden's - Eli - 12:38pm 9/25/19
  - Um, no. Both held aid to Ukraine - Biden to remove a corrupt prosecutor, Trump to get dirt on - jimbasil - 12:58pm 9/25/19
    - Yeah, don't read the call transcript, it's a trap. Just keep talking the narrative D created for you [NT] - Eli - 1:15pm 9/25/19
      - What are you talking about? [NT] - jimbasil - 1:18pm 9/25/19
        I'm talking about the call. Where did you find "pressure" & "inappropriate promise" from the call. [NT] - Eli - 1:43pm 9/25/19
        The very mention of the Biden's and if he could look into it. - jimbasil - 2:36pm 9/25/19
        Foxnews' primary headline puts this to bed. - LehighND - 3:40pm 9/25/19
        The Ukrainian dude now has something on Donnie D. and is now a security risk ala Russia pawn [NT] - jimbasil - 3:46pm 9/25/19
  - Do you honestly believe that he did NOT tie aid to the investigation? - Chris94 - 12:56pm 9/25/19
    - If you go beyond the call, do you honestly believe the whistleblower is not politically motivated? [NT] - Eli - 1:01pm 9/25/19
      - You didn't answer the question. - Chris94 - 1:24pm 9/25/19
        The transcript of call doesn't have it. Can we talk about something based on the fact, not belief? [NT] - Eli - 1:38pm 9/25/19
        Can you answer the question? [NT] - Chris94 - 2:44pm 9/25/19
    - Whelp it is Eli. The Tienamen Square protesters were Maoists according to him. [NT] - Frank L - 1:01pm 9/25/19
      - Not according to me, according to the facts, ass. You're embarrassing yourself facing the fact [NT] [LINK] - Eli - 1:11pm 9/25/19
        Frank: Make sure you go to the link. - Chris94 - 1:32pm 9/25/19
        Saw that. He’s a nut. [NT] - Frank L - 4:03pm 9/25/19
        
        Yes, and tell us how 3 true anti-Maoists were captured by those so-called protesters. [NT] - Eli - 1:40pm 9/25/19
  - Really? The pressure was freezing aid days before the call. You are truly a dummy. - Frank L - 12:42pm 9/25/19
    - You're talking about the call, ass. Check your own link. [NT] - Eli - 12:46pm 9/25/19
      - The call was made in conjunction with the pressure, ass. Read the post. [NT] - Frank L - 12:50pm 9/25/19
- Trump asked Zelenskyy whether Biden stopped the prosecution of his son, which Biden bragged he did - CC72 - 12:33pm 9/25/19
  - Biden was discussing administration policy - which was also UN policy - not his own - Chris94 - 12:46pm 9/25/19
    - Biden froze aid until a prosecutor was fired. Show me your outrage. Rather, you support the guy. [NT] - Cole - 12:59pm 9/25/19
      - False. It was not his call. - Chris94 - 1:26pm 9/25/19
        He said "You're not getting the billion if the prosecutor isn't fired." That prosecutor was - Cole - 1:47pm 9/25/19
        No, the prosecutor was not investigating that company. [NT] - Chris94 - 2:50pm 9/25/19
      - How do you want that outrage, in clear concise reasoning or the knee jerk one like yours? - jimbasil - 1:06pm 9/25/19
      - Because the guy was a corrupt asshole who wasn’t doing his job including investigating - Frank L - 1:05pm 9/25/19
        2 edits, and I still don't understand your point. Biden withheld aid until the prosecutor - Cole - 1:12pm 9/25/19
        You understand it. You just can’t refute it. There is zero evidence that Biden did anything due to - Frank L - 4:09pm 9/25/19
  - You dont think the fact that he froze aid a few days before the call isn’t evidence of a quid pro - Frank L - 12:40pm 9/25/19
- The "crime" here would be bribery and the key element of this requires a showing of "intent." - Curly1918 - 11:18am 9/25/19
  - Extortion not bribery - jimbasil - 12:26pm 9/25/19
  - The outcome of an impeachment will not be replacement by a Democrat. - Chris94 - 12:06pm 9/25/19
  - Or extortion or both. It’s rare that there ever is a recorded direct quid pro quo. - Frank L - 11:52am 9/25/19
- Transcript attached -- [LINK] - conorlarkin - 10:18am 9/25/19
  - Do you trust that this 'Memorandum of Telephone Conversation' is accurate ? [NT] - ND521 - 12:33pm 9/25/19
    - Reasonably accurate, but not necessarily100% accurate. [NT] - conorlarkin - 5:36pm 9/25/19
  - I eagerly await Team Apologia - Chris94 - 10:26am 9/25/19
    - You're making shit up at this point. It's embarassing. No quid pro quo per CNN. - Cole - 10:32am 9/25/19
      - I knew you could do it! - Chris94 - 10:34am 9/25/19
        So, should Nancy schedule a floor vote to impeach Trump? [NT] - Cole - 10:37am 9/25/19
        Not how it works. [NT] - Chris94 - 10:37am 9/25/19
        In 1998, Reps voted on the floor to open a formal impeachment inquiry. Should Nancy do the same? [NT] - Cole - 10:53am 9/25/19
        Yes, everybody needs to be on record for a step like that. - Frank L - 10:55am 9/25/19
      - Oh please even the mob boss doesn’t ask over the phone for a direct quid pro quo. [NT] - Frank L - 10:34am 9/25/19
        Francis you are delusional - Buffaloirish - 10:38am 9/25/19
        Another brilliant contribution, dim. [NT] - Frank L - 10:38am 9/25/19
        Francis did you ride the short yellow bus to school? [NT] - Buffaloirish - 10:42am 9/25/19
        Oooh good one. Bet you have a mom one also. [NT] - Frank L - 10:45am 9/25/19
        No but I'm sorry you just aren't too bright God Bless have a nice day [NT] - Buffaloirish - 10:46am 9/25/19
        
        Phew. I was afraid Trump might have done something wrong. :-) [NT] - NedoftheHill - 10:37am 9/25/19
        Okay, and seriously because I have respect for you that I don’t for these other two dimwits, - Frank L - 10:44am 9/25/19
        I haven't read the transcript yet. I'll get to it tonight. - NedoftheHill - 12:57pm 9/25/19
        What did; "Dems did exactly what they accuse Trump of doing"? [NT] - jimbasil - 1:01pm 9/25/19
        [Deleted. Posted in wrong place.] [NT] - NedoftheHill - 1:42pm 9/25/19
        What is it Dems do they accuse Trump of doing? [NT] - jimbasil - 1:57pm 9/25/19
        
        There are facts, and then there is what Frankie the Philly fan says. Look at his impeachment odds in [LINK] - Cole - 10:36am 9/25/19
        You are a moron. I said below I'm still not sold on Impeachment. - Frank L - 10:41am 9/25/19
        In 2018, Dems wrote to the Ukraine PM asking him to investigate Trump. Can you - Cole - 11:00am 9/25/19
        Had they just frozen aid to the nation that had been appropriated? Do better. - Frank L - 11:03am 9/25/19
        read the letter Francis. Sounds like mob tactics to me [NT] - Buffaloirish - 11:14am 9/25/19
        Except dim, they didn’t have the authority to freeze aid to the natIon and hadn't done so. - Frank L - 11:17am 9/25/19
        So dimwit Francis..that makes it all ok? Sorry you have clouded vision [NT] - Buffaloirish - 11:33am 9/25/19
        Do you even know to read? Where did I say it made it alright? I said it makes it makes it a - Frank L - 11:47am 9/25/19
        Francis yes i read your drivel As i said your judgement is clouded. - Buffaloirish - 12:03pm 9/25/19
        By extorting a foreign govt to do it, no. If there is a reasonable, non political basis, DOJ will do - Frank L - 12:35pm 9/25/19
        So Francis, was aid released? yes or no? - Buffaloirish - 1:07pm 9/25/19
        Are the Japanese allies of the US? [NT] - jimbasil - 1:12pm 9/25/19
        Just in case you missed it jimbecil - Buffaloirish - 1:22pm 9/25/19
        You just quoted Biden's interview answer which means what, Buffalochips? You can transcribe well? [NT] - jimbasil - 1:26pm 9/25/19
        Looks like a shakedown to me. But you're without intellect so it's above your head [NT] - Buffaloirish - 1:37pm 9/25/19
        I C, this is your challenge to Eli for the dumbest poster on the board - well done. [NT] - jimbasil - 2:37pm 9/25/19
        No you and Francis win that award...daily Bang up job [NT] - Buffaloirish - 3:05pm 9/25/19
        Your mother wears a girdle - I win. [NT] - jimbasil - 3:07pm 9/25/19
        Since you brought my mom into this... - Buffaloirish - 3:10pm 9/25/19
        
        Likely because of this complaint. That makes it even worse. Go back to watching Rocky and Bullwinkle - Frank L - 1:11pm 9/25/19
        Rocky and Bullwinkle might be above his intellect. [NT] - jimbasil - 1:13pm 9/25/19
        Jimbecile and francis - Buffaloirish - 1:28pm 9/25/19
        You argue like a third grader. I don’t mind the name calling, but other than that you really have - Frank L - 5:04pm 9/25/19
        Seriously Francis? - Buffaloirish - 10:48pm 9/25/19
        You just proved the point again. Such a sad sack. You have my sympathy. [NT] - Frank L - 9:18am 9/26/19
        Francis...you need help - Buffaloirish - 9:37am 9/26/19
        More proof. You really are pathetic. [NT] - Frank L - 9:49am 9/26/19
        Francis please explain? - Buffaloirish - 9:59am 9/26/19
        I did. You are troll a with nothing to say? Goodbye........and God Bless. [NT] - Frank L - 10:03am 9/26/19
        Francis i don't think you did. - Buffaloirish - 10:06am 9/26/19
        
        He is certain to be impeached now. - Chris94 - 10:39am 9/25/19
    - I don’t see how you can spin this as okay. - Frank L - 10:32am 9/25/19
  - It’s the typical scumball shit you would expect from him. Still not sold on impeachment though. - Frank L - 10:22am 9/25/19
    - Even if the Senate acquits, Congress has to go forward to deter future misconduct by Trump. - conorlarkin - 11:32am 9/25/19
      - I want to see more evidence first. Like the complaint and testimony by the whistleblower. - Frank L - 12:47pm 9/25/19
        I don't think we're going to see the complaint - Congress and the Senate will but not the public. - jimbasil - 1:19pm 9/25/19
        
        . [NT] - Frank L - 12:48pm 9/25/19
        . [NT] - Frank L - 12:49pm 9/25/19
- It is like what Chris Rock said about Michael Jackson - Chris94 - 10:18am 9/25/19