o my god! you are making this way to complicated. no one is denying the vacated wins and how much it sucks for the university. Can you PLEASE just let that go for a second and reread my added disclaimer, that should be the end of the discussion. All i did was count the games played, that its, END OF DISCUSSION. you can go on and not count all the vacated victories you want, thats fine, it doesn't matter! It was just some comparisons, get off it already. you hate kelly, fine. But looking at actually games played, counted or not, his resume is better than petterson, thats the end of it. You can still hate kelly and love petterson or whatever, it doesn't matter. Its just stupid stats. get that through your head.