Your question was: "What happened to the days of developing quarterbacks?"

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Your question was: "What happened to the days of developing quarterbacks?"

Author: TakethetrainKnute (32922 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:04 pm on Dec 28, 2022

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The answer is the changes to the rules of College Football...like I told you.

Creating a multiverse of Montana scenarios notwithstanding...

Replies to: "Your question was: "What happened to the days of developing quarterbacks?""

Report: Wake Forest QB Sam Hartman Likely to Transfer to Notre Dame? [NT] [LINK] - UHND - 9:14pm 12/27/22 (69) [View All]
- He has a” Quick Timeline” for this decision….and counting. [NT] - whatsamataU - 7:50pm 12/28/22
- Welcome to the wild wild west of the transfer portal and NIL [NT] - lmcdonald - 11:30am 12/28/22
- Tampering - LOND1 - 1:02am 12/28/22
  - No tampering, it was a friend talking to a friend hypothetically. [NT] - ghostwriter - 1:00pm 12/28/22
  - "All that is collegiate about the sport..." That's funny. There's nothing collegiate about the sport - TakethetrainKnute - 11:52am 12/28/22
    - True. Narducci went crazy over Lincoln poaching his prized wideout. Looked to be pre portal - Frank L - 12:07pm 12/28/22
  - Shame on him for only playing at Wake for 5 years. Where is the loyalty these days [NT] - NDNEIL - 10:34am 12/28/22
  - Take it easy on the Tampering BS - IrishOkie - 10:12am 12/28/22
    - Re: Take it easy on the Tampering BS - LOND1 - 10:38am 12/28/22
      - I don’t see Freeman or Rees violating any established rules. Could see them taking advantage of a - Frank L - 12:09pm 12/28/22
  - Are there rules that would prevent Rees from reaching out to Hartman to gauge interest? [NT] - jabbadoody5 - 10:01am 12/28/22
    - Re: Are there rules that would prevent Rees from reaching out to Hartman to gauge interest? - LOND1 - 10:21am 12/28/22
      - Yes, there are. See the 4th bullet under A1. It's very clear what the rules are and it covers pretty [LINK] - oldirish - 7:41pm 12/28/22
        Re: Yes, there are. See the 4th bullet under A1. It's very clear what the rules are and it covers pretty - LOND1 - 7:56pm 12/28/22
      - Look the whole notion that this is “College Football” has become laughable. - Frank L - 12:30pm 12/28/22
        As long as most of our players will graduate (eventually) I can live with this situation. - Curly1918 - 6:41pm 12/28/22
        What situation? The current "half-pregnant" situation? [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 8:27am 12/29/22
        
        Of course you can, but the question is whether the University can. The entire system is just a joke. - Frank L - 7:27pm 12/28/22
        This would put $ in the pockets of our students. I'm good with that. - Curly1918 - 5:12am 12/29/22
        Uhm, yeah that’s what it’s supposed to do. What it’s - Frank L - 10:14am 12/29/22
        
        It is no longer. ND will reach a fork in the road. They're probably already there but want to milk - TakethetrainKnute - 12:58pm 12/28/22
      - Based on what we've seen with NIL, they will put transfer rules in place - jabbadoody5 - 10:55am 12/28/22
  - "I admit I don’t know the details and I may be jumping to conclusions" - Frankie V - 9:04am 12/28/22
  - He said that be was leaving. He may have initiated contact. Regardless, it is being done to us. It - BaronVonZemo - 9:02am 12/28/22
  - What if it was the player who imitated the contact? - Curly1918 - 7:09am 12/28/22
    - Still against the rules pre-portal entry. The 4th bullet under A1. [NT] [LINK] - oldirish - 7:45pm 12/28/22
  - Re: Tampering - breali - 6:39am 12/28/22
    - Speak English much? [NT] - WoodstockIrish - 7:58am 12/28/22
      - Re: Speak English much? - breali - 8:32am 12/28/22
        Wow, now I understand…you’re 12 [NT] - WoodstockIrish - 9:04am 12/28/22
      - Maybe deserves a C- but at today's Universities an A for effort. [NT] - Curly1918 - 8:17am 12/28/22
- I'm not a big fan of this at all what happened to days - cubsfanin16 - 9:16pm 12/27/22
  - Do you not like winning? - Frankie V - 9:06am 12/28/22
    - Of course I do, don't you consider54-9 winning, - cubsfanin16 - 11:41am 12/28/22
    - Selling your soul to win football games doesn't seem to me to be part of ND's mission. - MAS - 10:51am 12/28/22
      - Just to be clear... - ND_in_DRO - 10:04am 12/29/22
        I don’t believe he was limiting his discussion to just Hartman [NT] - WoodstockIrish - 8:48am 12/30/22
      - There is a lot of philosophical gray area here. - jabbadoody5 - 4:03pm 12/28/22
  - Notice any changes in college football? [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 12:14am 12/28/22
    - I don't think it follows on account of NIL, the transfer portal - cubsfanin16 - 12:20am 12/28/22
      - Who exactly is Notre Dame dumping? [NT] - tky21 - 9:32am 12/28/22
      - Montana? Watch his Guinness commercial & think about what he might have done in today's environment [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 8:53am 12/28/22
        I don't know what you could possibly glean from a 65 year old man in a commercial, - cubsfanin16 - 11:48am 12/28/22
        He talks about his experience at Notre Dame in the one commercial and about falling down the depth - TakethetrainKnute - 12:09pm 12/28/22
        That's my point, he'd have been dumped today, - cubsfanin16 - 12:18pm 12/28/22
        Among many other things, they could carry 105 scholarships then and 85 now. Players would have to - TakethetrainKnute - 12:35pm 12/28/22
        That's my point,there would have been no Montana - cubsfanin16 - 1:00pm 12/28/22
        Your question was: "What happened to the days of developing quarterbacks?" - TakethetrainKnute - 2:04pm 12/28/22
        But, we've been told ND is different,I'd rather stay different, - cubsfanin16 - 2:19pm 12/28/22
        Wow, we agree - WoodstockIrish - 4:11pm 12/28/22
        Pyne's Pass Efficiency Rating was 155.3 while Sam Hartman's was 159.4 - bobdrake - 6:13pm 12/28/22
        
        I'm watching this develop and am beginning to ask the same questions as you cubsfanin [NT] - bobdrake - 2:43pm 12/28/22
        Need all the company I can get,lol [NT] - cubsfanin16 - 3:09pm 12/28/22
        
        To "stay different"...ND will have to move to a different subdivision of College Football. What we - TakethetrainKnute - 2:38pm 12/28/22
        As MAS wrote above,selling your soul , selling your soul to win football games - cubsfanin16 - 2:50pm 12/28/22
        I think they will come to that conclusion...eventually. Right now they are straddling the fence... - TakethetrainKnute - 2:54pm 12/28/22
        Agree, it's the money, could change over time.. - cubsfanin16 - 3:16pm 12/28/22
        
        Not necessarily. [NT] - bobdrake - 2:44pm 12/28/22
        We will see. I think it will be necessary...if you still wish your elite athletes to be students. [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 2:47pm 12/28/22
        Re: We will see. I think it will be necessary...if you still wish your elite athletes to be students. - bobdrake - 6:29pm 12/28/22
        
        Exactly. There are some very fine private universities and lots of public ones that have high - Frank L - 3:00pm 12/28/22
      - We can all cherry-pick events/situations from the last 50 years if you want to follow that logic [NT] - WoodstockIrish - 8:19am 12/28/22
  - Re: I'm not a big fan of this at all what happened to days - Stoned Leprechaun - 9:35pm 12/27/22
    - I don't think Pyne sucked. [NT] - bobdrake - 2:46pm 12/28/22
    - So,Ian Book,Deshone Kizer,Everett Golson, Tommy Rees sucked, I beg to differ. - cubsfanin16 - 10:15pm 12/27/22
      - First 2, good. The 3rd, okay. The 4th, not so hot. [NT] - Frank L - 12:35pm 12/28/22
    - Re: I'm not a big fan of this at all what happened to days - Rocketman84 - 9:53pm 12/27/22
      - Re: I'm not a big fan of this at all what happened to days - bobdrake - 3:14pm 12/28/22
      - Perfect,that's the way ND used to do it [NT] - cubsfanin16 - 10:17pm 12/27/22