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So far, I'm just short of the 8 minute mark...I'll go a bit further, but I think I have the premise

Author: TyroneIrish (20423 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 11:32 pm on Nov 1, 2022
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of Mr. Murray's argument...i.e. all those "Bad Things"...colonialism, imperialism, exploitation, etc. happened a long time ago...things are different now...people are waging a war against all the "Good" things that Western Civilization has done just to relive the past and demand reparations that aren't due them...'cause "I" didn't have any part in it.

Problem is, when it comes to "Racism", things haven't changed so much that the effects are no longer palpable...IMO, Charlottesville and the rise in Social Media activity by White Nationalists is testimony to the fact that it is very much a problem here in the U.S.. Not only that, but anti-LGBTQ activity is another form of oppression that is embedded within our GOP...witness the "Don't Say Gay" contribution from Ron DeSantis, so please don't peddle the "Don't Blame Me" smoke generator that Mr. Murray is selling...if you are excusing, or ignoring the words coming out of GOP candidates' mouths...or their refusal to castigate those who utter racist and/or anti-LGBTQ rhetoric, you are one of them.

I'll also offer you a chance to learn more, by recommending former GOP strategist, Stuart Stevens' book "It Was All A Lie" in which the first chapter is entitled "Race, the Original Republican Sin".

I'll return to Mr. Murray's video tomorrow, but candidly, I'll probably 'fast forward' in a few spots if I'm witnessing more of the first 8 minutes.

Note: As the progeny of my Irish Grandfather from Northern Ireland, I've taken the time to speak with my cousins there and do some research of my own...yes, things are considerably better, but they and I have memories of what transpired during the 'Golden Age' of Western colonialism and they are not only ugly from our POV, but those gains, from a human perspective were "Ill Gotten", paid with suffering and lives of those oppressed...and their progeny still reap the benefits...that's a fact that can't be swept under the rug. The challenge now is how to ensure such behavior never happens again, along with a heartfelt recognition of how truly "Bad" it was as we move forward together in like mind.

Mr. Murray's 'Dismissiveness' is not helping.


Replies to: "So far, I'm just short of the 8 minute mark...I'll go a bit further, but I think I have the premise"

  • Joe Rogan discusses the "Red Wave" [LINK] - lmcdonald - 10:20am 11/1/22 (30) [View All]
    • Democrats- this about sums it up: "a hard-to-hide contempt for the American people and their values" [NT] - LanceManion - 12:27pm 11/1/22
      • Everything the democrat left touches it destroys. Their mission goal is to make everyone miserable. [NT] - ELP - 12:33pm 11/1/22
        • Socialism's only value is the equal misery of all people according to Winston Churchill. He's right. [NT] - THEISMANCARR - 12:54am 11/2/22
        • How does fighting for Civil Rights, Social Security, Medicare make people miserable?...if anyone is - TyroneIrish - 1:48pm 11/1/22
          • Re: How does fighting for Civil Rights, Social Security, Medicare make people miserable?...if anyone is - MarkHarman - 2:33pm 11/1/22
            • Tyrone must forget that the Dems opposed the civil rights act. Strange. [NT] - notredame678 - 4:04pm 11/1/22
              • LOL...President Lyndon Johnson (D) signed the Civil Rights Act...after out-flanking the - TyroneIrish - 1:18am 11/2/22
            • Mark, are you against Civil Rights, Social Security and Medicare as primary examples of Democratic - TyroneIrish - 3:53pm 11/1/22
              • No one is oppressed in the U.S. That's insulting to those who really are - MarkHarman - 10:07pm 11/1/22
                • I don't know why people bother. - notredame678 - 8:11am 11/2/22
                • Ok, Mark...how do you explain DeSantis' "Don't Say Gay" Bill if there is no LGBTQ oppression? - TyroneIrish - 11:05pm 11/1/22
                  • Re: Ok, Mark...how do you explain DeSantis' "Don't Say Gay" Bill if there is no LGBTQ oppression? - MarkHarman - 11:45pm 11/2/22
                  • Because it's a fabricated tag line. Any other easy questions? [NT] - jakers - 9:57am 11/2/22
              • I don't think you'll watch this, I'll post it anyways. [NT] [LINK] - iairishcheeks - 6:05pm 11/1/22
                • So far, I'm just short of the 8 minute mark...I'll go a bit further, but I think I have the premise - TyroneIrish - 11:32pm 11/1/22
                  • Here is an embed where he summarizes. - iairishcheeks - 8:20am 11/2/22
                  • You think that teachers should be teaching LGBTQ sexual content to K-3? - iairishcheeks - 7:52am 11/2/22
    • Right - Rogan not a propagandist - he’s more in touch. Brilliant! [NT] [LINK] - jimbasil - 11:48am 11/1/22
      • If you come at the king, you best not miss. - iairishcheeks - 12:38pm 11/1/22
        • Oh boy - 2 million new subscribers makes him more in touch. Brilliant! [NT] - jimbasil - 12:58pm 11/1/22
          • Of course you miss the point, carry on, you're clearly more "In touch" [NT] - iairishcheeks - 1:06pm 11/1/22
            • One of us did. [NT] - jimbasil - 1:29pm 11/1/22
              • I was commenting on the link you posted. - iairishcheeks - 1:37pm 11/1/22
    • I’m hopeful but will believe it when it happens. Even if it does, I don’t expect the GOP to do much - TampaIrish - 10:45am 11/1/22
      • Even if they do nothing,it is necessary to save our country - cubsfanin16 - 1:14pm 11/1/22
        • You're not wrong but I was just going off of the past and how weak they are normally. - TampaIrish - 1:30pm 11/1/22
      • History is on your side yet 'Cons still hoping and praying. That's when you know you have a fringe - Quest4twelve - 12:02pm 11/1/22
        • Fringe, as in D supported BLM and antifa and defund police? That kind of fringe? - ELP - 12:31pm 11/1/22
      • "I don't expect the GOP to do much". I agree 100%. I don't trust Mitch or McCarthy. [NT] - ELP - 11:14am 11/1/22
    • There’s a bigger blue wave of fake ballots coming [NT] - holybull101 - 10:41am 11/1/22
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