All your counter points have been regurgitated over and over by the MSM. Just the fact that you have a justification for everything screams that this debate is not worth the effort. It never is with the left. Why should I exert some effort on a free anonymous message board? You think for one second that you would agree with any of my finer points? For the "umpteenth time", your arguments are meant for your satisfaction. It means zero to me.