so that civilians can keep getting killed and children can keep getting kidnapped?
I don't have any opinions on Ukraine. At least not on how we should proceed. I'd be happy to be convinced that I should have an opinion and to hear what that opinion should be. It has nothing to do with the point I was making, but my point was made, so we can debate this topic instead. Why does it make sense to continue to throw fuel on the fire, when fueling the fire will lead to more death and despair?