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And you're wrong poli Sci.
Author:
Stark Raving Dad
(5192 Posts - Joined: Aug 19, 2020)
Posted at 2:04 pm on Jan 22, 2023
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"It’s always a wonder how you all are experts in everything." jimbasil 6/26/2022
Replies to: "And you're wrong poli Sci."
RE: chat below - If the US is governed by biblical principles, who are the arbiters of the bible?
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Hibakusha
- 12:54pm 1/22/23
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The Church He established. The same Church which compiled the canon of the Bible.
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NedoftheHill
- 2:31pm 1/22/23
I'm sure the 140 million or so Protestants would dispute that :) However...
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Hibakusha
- 2:43pm 1/22/23
Of course, but their logic is flawed. Jesus didn't write anything. Only the Catholic Church did.
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NedoftheHill
- 2:58pm 1/22/23
Hahaha Touché...it is a Catholic forum! But even Popes differ at times.
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Hibakusha
- 3:02pm 1/22/23
Never on doctrinal issues - thanks to the protection of Papal Infallibility which I doubt you fully
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BaronVonZemo
- 3:38pm 1/22/23
I didn't open the "Infallible" door. I said "Pope's differ at time's."
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Hibakusha
- 5:48pm 1/22/23
16yrs of catholic education could also mean very little.Pope’s have NOT differed on doctrinal issues
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BaronVonZemo
- 6:01pm 1/22/23
Did you learn to read? You introduced Doctrinal Issues. I did not.
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Hibakusha
- 6:13pm 1/22/23
Ned talked of canon, you said”even popes have disagreed. I pointed out not on doctrine.
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BaronVonZemo
- 6:34pm 1/22/23
Nice back peddle. Mea Culpa would have been better.
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Hibakusha
- 8:19pm 1/22/23
"Pedal." "Backpeddling refers to selling hot TVs out of the back end of your white Econoline.
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MAS
- 8:44pm 1/22/23
What Protestant ever said Jesus wrote the Bible?
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Stark Raving Dad
- 3:01pm 1/22/23
I don't know. But, it looks like we agree that Jesus didn't write anything.
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NedoftheHill
- 3:03pm 1/22/23
The US was founded on Judeo-Christian principles.
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jabbadoody5
- 1:49pm 1/22/23
Well said. Philosophically our morals/values come from Judeo-Christian principles. I would add that
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Eli
- 3:34pm 1/22/23
Slight correction: they do have a set of replacement values.
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MAS
- 2:28pm 1/22/23
You're right. Agree.
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jabbadoody5
- 2:47pm 1/22/23
Thank you, I believe it was more pluralistic than that
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Hibakusha
- 2:18pm 1/22/23
It's a Republic, so the voters are the arbiters.
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jabbadoody5
- 2:40pm 1/22/23
Agreed.
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NedoftheHill
- 3:17pm 1/22/23
I can agree with that.
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Hibakusha
- 2:57pm 1/22/23
Capitalist values are orthogonal to Christian values.
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NedoftheHill
- 3:19pm 1/22/23
Voters and elected and non-elected officials ultimately create and enforce their interpretations.
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MAS
- 2:24pm 1/22/23
Read 1st & 2nd Timothy.
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Stark Raving Dad
- 1:02pm 1/22/23
I’m sure Jesus would love intolerant, ignorant zealots like you
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Chris94
- 1:31pm 1/22/23
He literally would.
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jabbadoody5
- 4:00pm 1/22/23
Good point. Poor choice of words.
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Chris94
- 5:00pm 1/22/23
You think Jesus would be cool with drag shows and strip shows for kids?
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NedoftheHill
- 2:40pm 1/22/23
You misunderstand. It’s not just about pointing out what He didn’t talk about.
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Chris94
- 4:49pm 1/22/23
Jesus told people truth. Homosexuality is an abomination, poli Sci.
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Stark Raving Dad
- 1:33pm 1/22/23
Jesus never mentioned gay people, Mr Bible Thumper
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Chris94
- 2:03pm 1/22/23
Obviously it is mentioned and concemned several times in the New Testament.
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NedoftheHill
- 2:44pm 1/22/23
…as long as you interpret the New Testament right.
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Chris94
- 6:43pm 1/22/23
Incorrect. It is dealt with. And the Church which wrote the Bible has been consistent
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NedoftheHill
- 1:31pm 1/23/23
And you're wrong poli Sci.
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Stark Raving Dad
- 2:04pm 1/22/23
One of Chris's favorite tactics: Christianity is limited to literal words spoken by Jesus & written.
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NedoftheHill
- 2:39pm 1/22/23
Simply becasue He didn't speak doesn't mean it isn't His Word. The Bible is God's word.
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Stark Raving Dad
- 2:52pm 1/22/23
Agreed. Chris is using tricks to "win" discussions. Apparently that is encouraged in academia.
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NedoftheHill
- 3:05pm 1/22/23
I just object to putting issues He never even mentioned at the heart of the faith.
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Chris94
- 2:46pm 1/22/23
Your "heart of the faith" construct is another debate trick.
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NedoftheHill
- 3:10pm 1/22/23
Chris 94 mocks The Sacred Heart.
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Hensou
- 4:27pm 1/22/23
He did mention it. A lot. See below Poli Sci.
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Stark Raving Dad
- 2:50pm 1/22/23
Jefferson too, he made his own bible.
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Hibakusha
- 2:44pm 1/22/23
Right. He excluded all mentions of the supernatural. He never called it a "bible" though.
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NedoftheHill
- 3:12pm 1/22/23
Correct.
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Hibakusha
- 2:47pm 1/23/23
Prove it
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Chris94
- 2:25pm 1/22/23
OK.
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Stark Raving Dad
- 2:50pm 1/22/23
*
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Chris94
- 2:03pm 1/22/23
Gotcha, commonly used to prevent discourse over the bible but the bible was built on discourse.
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Hibakusha
- 1:21pm 1/22/23
You cannot have a functional system that is separated from religion.
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MAS
- 2:21pm 1/22/23
Whose religion?
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Hibakusha
- 2:49pm 1/22/23
Which country or counties are the world's most prosperous and tolerant in history
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jabbadoody5
- 3:28pm 1/22/23
The U.S. fits the bill with prosperity but it took a long time to reach the tolerant level.
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Hibakusha
- 6:08pm 1/22/23
Ok, but where are we now?
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jabbadoody5
- 11:15pm 1/22/23
"America is a shining city upon a hill whose beacon light guides freedom-loving people everywhere."
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Hibakusha
- 2:55pm 1/23/23
Of course they can be wrong.
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MAS
- 3:17pm 1/22/23
Nonsense. Religion is not the only basis for morality.
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Chris94
- 2:28pm 1/22/23
True, but it is riskier.
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NedoftheHill
- 3:31pm 1/22/23
Then you clean didn't it read or study. Back to Sunday school kiddo.
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Stark Raving Dad
- 1:26pm 1/22/23
Oh I have but it does not address my original query, Let's have one debate at a time.
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Hibakusha
- 1:53pm 1/22/23
Sure you have darling. Sure.
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Stark Raving Dad
- 1:54pm 1/22/23
Thanks sweetie.
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Hibakusha
- 2:19pm 1/22/23