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Calling a renowned physician who has been honored by Presidents a "Liar" doesn't help either...

Author: TyroneIrish (22894 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 10:34 am on Feb 8, 2023
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especially when the results prove you and the authors of thailt article wrong. All Dr. Fauci has done "wrong" is speak the truth in opposition to his Malignant Narcissist Boss, who then proceeded to unleash his abundant hate...ergo, articles like the one you cited.

I've attached a truly accurate summary of where we started with mRNA vaccines...where we are now...and where we might be in the future with a pathogen that always has the lead when it comes to changes...here are a couple of excerpts for those with short attention spans...

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Millions of people shared her impatience, for good reason: Adults who are up to date on their shots are 15 times less likely to die from Covid than those who are unvaccinated. Covid vaccines prevented more than 3.2 million deaths and 18.5 million hospitalizations in the U.S. from December 2020 through November 2022, according to an analysis published Tuesday by the Commonwealth Fund and Yale School of Public Health.
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Vaccine researchers generally agree that mRNA technology was suited to the needs of this pandemic, since it allowed scientists to develop a vaccine quickly at a time when each day meant more lives lost. Scientists then updated the shots relatively easily to target new variants.

“If it wasn’t mRNA, it wouldn’t have gotten done so fast,” said Dr. Barney Graham, former deputy director of the National Institutes of Health’s Vaccine Research Center, now a senior adviser for global health equity at Morehouse School of Medicine.
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“The mRNA technology is remarkably successful — these vaccines work better than we had the right to expect,” Frieden said. “But the virus is adapting. And as the virus adapts, we need to adapt.”
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The last excerpt summarizes the real world situation...COVID-19 ADAPTS to its environment...we can't control that...what we can do is use medical science to produce better vaccine 'designs'.


The fact that you never even tried to understand "The Science" tells me you either won't read the article or will fail to comprehend it...so, this is for all those not looking for political points...just the true facts so they can stay healthy...while also thanking their HC professionals for all the great work they do...especially, Dr. Fauci.


Link: https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/two-years-covid-vaccines-rcna57902

Replies to: "Calling a renowned physician who has been honored by Presidents a "Liar" doesn't help either..."

  • Fauci admits he wasn't really following the science. [LINK] - iairishcheeks - 7:34am 2/8/23 (67) [View All]
    • Remember at Christmas 2020 when Fauci said not to invite family members who weren’t vaccinated? [LINK] - BaronVonZemo - 10:41am 2/8/23
      • Correction...that was 2021 and Omicron didn't appear in Africa until Nov. of 2021...so NO ONE knew - TyroneIrish - 12:03pm 2/8/23
    • Calling a renowned physician who has been honored by Presidents a "Liar" doesn't help either... [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 10:34am 2/8/23
      • "Adults who are up to date on their shots are 15 times less likely to die from Covid" - MarkHarman - 12:56pm 2/8/23
        • OMG...the guy who failed the "Base Rate Fallacy" test is back...go read all the previous posts on - TyroneIrish - 1:32pm 2/8/23
      • You admitted he was a liar. - jabbadoody5 - 11:04am 2/8/23
        • That is absolutely 100% wrong...one more time... - TyroneIrish - 11:32am 2/8/23
          • You can consider it a moral lie, but that doesn't mean he didn't lie. - jabbadoody5 - 11:53am 2/8/23
            • Keep this up and you're going to look like a "Digital Pretzel" ;-)...you know I'm right, but you - TyroneIrish - 12:07pm 2/8/23
              • He was dishonest about the effectiveness of masks - jabbadoody5 - 12:10pm 2/8/23
                • How did we get so many Zombies on this board?...anyway, in answer to that question...I already - TyroneIrish - 12:34pm 2/8/23
                  • That's not true. He didn't immediately recommend masking with whatever people had available. - jabbadoody5 - 12:40pm 2/8/23
                    • Here's your very own copy of the link I just provided to Iggle...btw, less than a month later IMO [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 12:57pm 2/8/23
                      • Less than a month later does not qualify as immediately. - jabbadoody5 - 1:05pm 2/8/23
                        • Well now, where are we in this discussion?...you've already admitted that Dr. Fauci didn't actually - TyroneIrish - 1:20pm 2/8/23
                          • I'm using your word. Downplaying is lying. - jabbadoody5 - 1:27pm 2/8/23
                            • Yes, the word "downplay" was my reading of what he said based on the very real circumstances - TyroneIrish - 1:47pm 2/8/23
                              • I didn't call it a moral lie. I was suggesting that you were. - jabbadoody5 - 2:17pm 2/8/23
                                • "You can consider it a moral lie, but that doesn't mean he didn't lie."...your words, not mine... - TyroneIrish - 2:31pm 2/8/23
                                  • You haven't shown that though. - jabbadoody5 - 3:34pm 2/8/23
                                    • I guarantee you that Dr. Fauci knows the difference in effectiveness for cloth masks and N95s...but, - TyroneIrish - 3:55pm 2/8/23
                                      • No I didn't. I already explained that. - jabbadoody5 - 4:10pm 2/8/23
                                        • Just read the Reuter's "Fact Check" article on that 60 Minutes interview that I've provided to [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 5:36pm 2/8/23
                                          • I've already addressed that. - jabbadoody5 - 5:48pm 2/8/23
                                            • LOL...you said that...but you were wrong...keep on trolling ;-). [NT] - TyroneIrish - 5:53pm 2/8/23
                                              • I was right. You agreed. [NT] - jabbadoody5 - 6:13pm 2/8/23
                • “Cloth masks work!” - A Fauci - Iggle - 12:14pm 2/8/23
                  • Thats right...Once again, Dr. Fauci...AT THAT TIME in the history of COVID, was saying no masks were [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 12:47pm 2/8/23
                    • Cloth masks don't work, Ty. - Iggle - 1:07pm 2/8/23
                      • When that's all you have and need to venture out of your home...you use them...very simple. - TyroneIrish - 1:11pm 2/8/23
                        • Surrender accepted. [NT] - Iggle - 2:39pm 2/8/23
                          • ??...How can you say such a thing when every HC system on earth recommends face masks, and under [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 4:07pm 2/8/23
                            • Cloth masks don't work, Ty. The fact that you are extrapolating from N95 masks... - Iggle - 5:01pm 2/8/23
                              • Now see, you're still hung up on "Perfection" and have no concept of "Mitigation"...I'll bet you - TyroneIrish - 6:11pm 2/8/23
                                • That's some study. Prevented the spread from two hair stylists. - Iggle - 6:50pm 2/8/23
                                  • How did you miss the Boston Hospital System Study that got written up in JAMA?...and as for the - TyroneIrish - 7:45pm 2/8/23
                                    • The sad thing is,... - Iggle - 8:01pm 2/8/23
                                      • Actually, my game is insisting on substantive facts and evidence from the best sources, ergo my - TyroneIrish - 9:23pm 2/8/23
    • Fauci is finally admitting what good doctors have been saying all along.He lied to the public when - BaronVonZemo - 10:27am 2/8/23
      • Baron, you're just a "Fallen Away" doctor...fortunately, I can tell the difference since I have the - TyroneIrish - 11:43am 2/8/23
    • Of course that’s not even close to what he said - Chris94 - 7:41am 2/8/23
      • Would you feel better if we called it a gaffe? [NT] - iairishcheeks - 10:26am 2/8/23
      • Of course you don't have the best track record of correctly interpretting what people are saying. - jabbadoody5 - 8:33am 2/8/23
        • Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha! OMG! Too early in the day maybe. Poor “track record” - jimbasil - 9:16am 2/8/23
          • Jim, you don't have to leave this page [LINK] - jabbadoody5 - 9:19am 2/8/23
            • And that would be another of your inaccuracies or should we say - jimbasil - 9:22am 2/8/23
              • I provided evidence, dipshit. [NT] - jabbadoody5 - 9:33am 2/8/23
              • I think he is spot on. You’re a certified fool. [NT] - Hensou - 9:23am 2/8/23
        • The primary purpose of the vaccines was not to stop the spread - Chris94 - 9:02am 2/8/23
          • Eh, unfortunately Chris, policy didn't reflect that. We had vaccine mandates on everyone. - jakers - 11:14am 2/8/23
            • As I recall, in the early days, vaccines helped mitigate - but did not eliminate - the spread - Chris94 - 12:30pm 2/8/23
              • And for that brief window of time, the mandates were defensible. But the mandates continued on. - jakers - 12:50pm 2/8/23
          • ….and do you remember calling people “plague rats” as you supported forced vaccinations? - BaronVonZemo - 10:34am 2/8/23
            • Correct description then, correct description now [NT] - Chris94 - 11:21am 2/8/23
              • Yeah, civility is for losers. Thats a quote from you as you call people plague rats. - TampaIrish - 11:31am 2/8/23
              • Technically, vaccinated people would have been plague rats as well. - jabbadoody5 - 11:27am 2/8/23
            • And don't forget the Christian who wished death on those who would not take the shot. You know as - TampaIrish - 11:00am 2/8/23
          • So then, if vaccines couldn’t stop the spread,masks certainly couldn’t. What was their purpose? [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 10:10am 2/8/23
          • Reduce the spread. Side effects be damned. - Hensou - 9:32am 2/8/23
          • That is not what anybody said about the vaccine, and you know it. - Iggle - 9:25am 2/8/23
            • Yep, exactly. - iairishcheeks - 9:48am 2/8/23
            • Fauci and Biden both said "you get the shot (it's not a vaccine) and you don't have to worry". - TampaIrish - 9:33am 2/8/23
          • The best way to protect against worst outcomes was being young. - jabbadoody5 - 9:17am 2/8/23
            • Yep. I will try to find the stat but I am positive I saw the % of deaths - Frankx - 10:53am 2/8/23
            • Yep, it would have been a great time to get people to eat healthier and exercise more. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 9:49am 2/8/23
        • You could have stopped with "you don't have the best track record". No one has been wrong - TampaIrish - 8:59am 2/8/23
    • Link to the full study. [NT] [LINK] - iairishcheeks - 7:35am 2/8/23

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