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Now see, you're still hung up on "Perfection" and have no concept of "Mitigation"...I'll bet you

Author: TyroneIrish (9338 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 6:11 pm on Feb 8, 2023
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didn't read the CDC notice on 'Cloth Masks' that I gave you...so I'll spoon feed you some of the material...

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This review included two case studies out today, one from JAMA, showing that adherence to universal masking policies reduced SARS-CoV-2 transmission within a Boston hospital system, and one from CDC’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR), showing that wearing a mask prevented the spread of infection from two hair stylists to their customers in Missouri.

Additional data in today’s MMWR showed that immediately after the White House Coronavirus Task Force and CDC advised Americans to wear CLOTH FACE COVERINGS when leaving home, the proportion of U.S. adults who chose to do so increased, with 3 in 4 reporting they had adopted the recommendation in a national internet survey.

The results of the Missouri case study provide further evidence on the benefits of wearing a cloth face covering. The investigation focused on two hair stylists — infected with and having symptoms of COVID-19 — whose salon policy followed a local ordinance requiring cloth face coverings for all employees and patrons. The investigators found that none of the stylists’ 139 clients or secondary contacts became ill, and all 67 clients who volunteered to be tested showed no sign of infection.

The finding adds to a growing body of evidence that CLOTH FACE COVERINGS provide source control – that is, they HELP PREVENT THE PERSON WEARING THE MASK FROM SPREADING COVID-19 TO OTHERS. The MAIN PROTECTION INDIVIDUALS GAIN FROM MASKING occurs when OTHERS IN THEIR COMMUNITIES ALSO WEAR FACE COVERINGS. (emphasis mine)
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Here's another problem you share with the anti-maskers (and anti-vaxers..etc.)...you ONLY THINK OF YOURSELF...and not at all about the others near you, much less the whole community. Yes, the cloth masks have much larger openings...BUT, they absolutely reduce the volume and distance that viral loads of COVID-19 can travel (there are videos to prove it)...that's very important in reducing the spread of the disease...this seems to be a shared malady for conservatives...only concerns are for them...none for others...pretty sad, but true.


Replies to: "Now see, you're still hung up on "Perfection" and have no concept of "Mitigation"...I'll bet you"

  • Fauci admits he wasn't really following the science. [LINK] - iairishcheeks - 7:34am 2/8/23 (67) [View All]
    • Remember at Christmas 2020 when Fauci said not to invite family members who weren’t vaccinated? [LINK] - BaronVonZemo - 10:41am 2/8/23
      • Correction...that was 2021 and Omicron didn't appear in Africa until Nov. of 2021...so NO ONE knew - TyroneIrish - 12:03pm 2/8/23
    • Calling a renowned physician who has been honored by Presidents a "Liar" doesn't help either... [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 10:34am 2/8/23
      • "Adults who are up to date on their shots are 15 times less likely to die from Covid" - MarkHarman - 12:56pm 2/8/23
        • OMG...the guy who failed the "Base Rate Fallacy" test is back...go read all the previous posts on - TyroneIrish - 1:32pm 2/8/23
      • You admitted he was a liar. - jabbadoody5 - 11:04am 2/8/23
        • That is absolutely 100% wrong...one more time... - TyroneIrish - 11:32am 2/8/23
          • You can consider it a moral lie, but that doesn't mean he didn't lie. - jabbadoody5 - 11:53am 2/8/23
            • Keep this up and you're going to look like a "Digital Pretzel" ;-)...you know I'm right, but you - TyroneIrish - 12:07pm 2/8/23
              • He was dishonest about the effectiveness of masks - jabbadoody5 - 12:10pm 2/8/23
                • How did we get so many Zombies on this board?...anyway, in answer to that question...I already - TyroneIrish - 12:34pm 2/8/23
                  • That's not true. He didn't immediately recommend masking with whatever people had available. - jabbadoody5 - 12:40pm 2/8/23
                    • Here's your very own copy of the link I just provided to Iggle...btw, less than a month later IMO [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 12:57pm 2/8/23
                      • Less than a month later does not qualify as immediately. - jabbadoody5 - 1:05pm 2/8/23
                        • Well now, where are we in this discussion?...you've already admitted that Dr. Fauci didn't actually - TyroneIrish - 1:20pm 2/8/23
                          • I'm using your word. Downplaying is lying. - jabbadoody5 - 1:27pm 2/8/23
                            • Yes, the word "downplay" was my reading of what he said based on the very real circumstances - TyroneIrish - 1:47pm 2/8/23
                              • I didn't call it a moral lie. I was suggesting that you were. - jabbadoody5 - 2:17pm 2/8/23
                                • "You can consider it a moral lie, but that doesn't mean he didn't lie."...your words, not mine... - TyroneIrish - 2:31pm 2/8/23
                                  • You haven't shown that though. - jabbadoody5 - 3:34pm 2/8/23
                                    • I guarantee you that Dr. Fauci knows the difference in effectiveness for cloth masks and N95s...but, - TyroneIrish - 3:55pm 2/8/23
                                      • No I didn't. I already explained that. - jabbadoody5 - 4:10pm 2/8/23
                                        • Just read the Reuter's "Fact Check" article on that 60 Minutes interview that I've provided to [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 5:36pm 2/8/23
                                          • I've already addressed that. - jabbadoody5 - 5:48pm 2/8/23
                                            • LOL...you said that...but you were wrong...keep on trolling ;-). [NT] - TyroneIrish - 5:53pm 2/8/23
                                              • I was right. You agreed. [NT] - jabbadoody5 - 6:13pm 2/8/23
                • “Cloth masks work!” - A Fauci - Iggle - 12:14pm 2/8/23
                  • Thats right...Once again, Dr. Fauci...AT THAT TIME in the history of COVID, was saying no masks were [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 12:47pm 2/8/23
                    • Cloth masks don't work, Ty. - Iggle - 1:07pm 2/8/23
                      • When that's all you have and need to venture out of your home...you use them...very simple. - TyroneIrish - 1:11pm 2/8/23
                        • Surrender accepted. [NT] - Iggle - 2:39pm 2/8/23
                          • ??...How can you say such a thing when every HC system on earth recommends face masks, and under [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 4:07pm 2/8/23
                            • Cloth masks don't work, Ty. The fact that you are extrapolating from N95 masks... - Iggle - 5:01pm 2/8/23
                              • Now see, you're still hung up on "Perfection" and have no concept of "Mitigation"...I'll bet you - TyroneIrish - 6:11pm 2/8/23
                                • That's some study. Prevented the spread from two hair stylists. - Iggle - 6:50pm 2/8/23
                                  • How did you miss the Boston Hospital System Study that got written up in JAMA?...and as for the - TyroneIrish - 7:45pm 2/8/23
                                    • The sad thing is,... - Iggle - 8:01pm 2/8/23
                                      • Actually, my game is insisting on substantive facts and evidence from the best sources, ergo my - TyroneIrish - 9:23pm 2/8/23
    • Fauci is finally admitting what good doctors have been saying all along.He lied to the public when - BaronVonZemo - 10:27am 2/8/23
      • Baron, you're just a "Fallen Away" doctor...fortunately, I can tell the difference since I have the - TyroneIrish - 11:43am 2/8/23
    • Of course that’s not even close to what he said - Chris94 - 7:41am 2/8/23
      • Would you feel better if we called it a gaffe? [NT] - iairishcheeks - 10:26am 2/8/23
      • Of course you don't have the best track record of correctly interpretting what people are saying. - jabbadoody5 - 8:33am 2/8/23
        • Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha! OMG! Too early in the day maybe. Poor “track record” - jimbasil - 9:16am 2/8/23
          • Jim, you don't have to leave this page [LINK] - jabbadoody5 - 9:19am 2/8/23
            • And that would be another of your inaccuracies or should we say - jimbasil - 9:22am 2/8/23
              • I provided evidence, dipshit. [NT] - jabbadoody5 - 9:33am 2/8/23
              • I think he is spot on. You’re a certified fool. [NT] - Hensou - 9:23am 2/8/23
        • The primary purpose of the vaccines was not to stop the spread - Chris94 - 9:02am 2/8/23
          • Eh, unfortunately Chris, policy didn't reflect that. We had vaccine mandates on everyone. - jakers - 11:14am 2/8/23
            • As I recall, in the early days, vaccines helped mitigate - but did not eliminate - the spread - Chris94 - 12:30pm 2/8/23
              • And for that brief window of time, the mandates were defensible. But the mandates continued on. - jakers - 12:50pm 2/8/23
          • ….and do you remember calling people “plague rats” as you supported forced vaccinations? - BaronVonZemo - 10:34am 2/8/23
            • Correct description then, correct description now [NT] - Chris94 - 11:21am 2/8/23
              • Yeah, civility is for losers. Thats a quote from you as you call people plague rats. - TampaIrish - 11:31am 2/8/23
              • Technically, vaccinated people would have been plague rats as well. - jabbadoody5 - 11:27am 2/8/23
            • And don't forget the Christian who wished death on those who would not take the shot. You know as - TampaIrish - 11:00am 2/8/23
          • So then, if vaccines couldn’t stop the spread,masks certainly couldn’t. What was their purpose? [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 10:10am 2/8/23
          • Reduce the spread. Side effects be damned. - Hensou - 9:32am 2/8/23
          • That is not what anybody said about the vaccine, and you know it. - Iggle - 9:25am 2/8/23
            • Yep, exactly. - iairishcheeks - 9:48am 2/8/23
            • Fauci and Biden both said "you get the shot (it's not a vaccine) and you don't have to worry". - TampaIrish - 9:33am 2/8/23
          • The best way to protect against worst outcomes was being young. - jabbadoody5 - 9:17am 2/8/23
            • Yep. I will try to find the stat but I am positive I saw the % of deaths - Frankx - 10:53am 2/8/23
            • Yep, it would have been a great time to get people to eat healthier and exercise more. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 9:49am 2/8/23
        • You could have stopped with "you don't have the best track record". No one has been wrong - TampaIrish - 8:59am 2/8/23
    • Link to the full study. [NT] [LINK] - iairishcheeks - 7:35am 2/8/23
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