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Define your terms:

Author: JacksSmirkingRevenge (21148 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:52 am on Jul 25, 2009

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A misbehaving child is sent to their room for time to cool down. A misbehaving Black Prof is glorified and that is detestable.

What are we talking about? I think we need to be careful here. There is a difference between what you or the police might call misbehavior and breaking the law. I don't know, at this point, whether Gates's reaction justified his arrest. Maybe you know more than I.

As for Gates's glorification: Seems to me he's being villified plenty too. Just depends on who you listen to.

"We have to build the Republic of Heaven where we are, because for us there is no elsewhere."

Replies to: "Define your terms:"

Mark Steyn post script on Professor Gates... - Killshot - 10:58am 7/25/09 (73) [View All]
- It's amazing to me that anyone cares about this - Chris94 - 11:45am 7/25/09
  - You're half right.... - Frank L - 12:47pm 7/26/09
  - That you have no idea why this is an issue is what makes you a moron. - TheIrishHammer - 8:07pm 7/25/09
  - OMG!!!!Chris and I agree on something...holy shit...the end must be near. - FLIrishK9 - 12:43pm 7/25/09
    - Did you say "Near"? [NT] - jimbasil - 1:16pm 7/25/09
  - But here you are on a beautiful Saturday reading and posting... - Killshot - 12:30pm 7/25/09
  - You recognize that (1) Obama addressed this, and (2) it was going race card route till it blew up in - TontoGoldstein - 12:09pm 7/25/09
    - Clearly race is a factor in many of the decisions Obama makes.... - jabi - 5:32pm 7/25/09
      - Your comment does raise an interesting point.... - Frank L - 2:02pm 7/26/09
  - It is because President Obama made a stupid comment. - Tom Hynes - 11:53am 7/25/09
    - Obama's comment was nuts. - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 11:59am 7/25/09
      - Only to those who didn't vote for him based solely on the color of his skin. [NT] - TontoGoldstein - 12:10pm 7/25/09
        Plenty of us Obama supporters believe he spoke "stupidly" on this [NT] - ND_in_ATL - 10:41am 7/27/09
    - Very true - Chris94 - 11:56am 7/25/09
- I gather that Skip Gates is an A-Hole, and acted as such w/ Officer Crowley, but ........ - conorlarkin - 11:06am 7/25/09
  - "And I know what I'm taking about on this, ..... trust me." Are you a black man living in America? - FLIrishK9 - 12:55pm 7/25/09
    - I was talking in general terms K9. - conorlarkin - 1:42pm 7/25/09
      - Don't take this personally, conor, but lawyers ARE scumbags. - TheIrishHammer - 8:31pm 7/25/09
      - Well seeing how I know of no other law enforcement officers on this board, I have to stand up for us - FLIrishK9 - 2:12pm 7/25/09
        You forgot about me, at one time I was a chief law enforcement officer. - Tom Hynes - 2:31pm 7/25/09
        Forgot? Fondly remembered as the days when the Eleventh Judicial District could handle insurgencies. [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 8:11am 7/26/09
  - Yes, but was race a factor in THIS policing and should Obama have spoken without the facts? Those - TontoGoldstein - 12:11pm 7/25/09
    - That's a 1st Amendment issue. - conorlarkin - 1:43pm 7/25/09
      - It's an "I'm an idiot" issue. - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 2:41pm 7/25/09
  - OK, but in contradistinction, who is safer... - Killshot - 11:45am 7/25/09
    - Who looks the other way when whites get beat up by blacks? - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 11:57am 7/25/09
      - Agree, but it is ironic that when a group of white kids beat up a black kid, it's considered a..... - Domer From Hell - 12:09pm 7/25/09
        Is that true? - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 12:22pm 7/25/09
        I challenge you to find ONE case where blacks were charged with a hate crime... - Domer From Hell - 1:15pm 7/25/09
        Interestingly, . . - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 1:19pm 7/25/09
        Alan Iverson...before he he went to Georgetown got in a bowling alley brawl. Charged with lynching. [NT] - CC Fond - 8:47am 7/26/09
        
        Excellent. I'd be interested in seeing the percentage. [NT] - Domer From Hell - 1:21pm 7/25/09
        Here's a starter. [LINK] - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 1:33pm 7/25/09
        I'm surprised. As a white male, I had no idea I was protected by a hate crimes legislation.... - Domer From Hell - 1:36pm 7/25/09
        The reason you don't hear about it: People don't use anti-white bias as a political football. - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 1:44pm 7/25/09
  - You're right. - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 11:23am 7/25/09
  - And your point? - TheIrishHammer - 11:20am 7/25/09
    - I resent your comment on W Heights. - jimbasil - 11:30am 7/25/09
    - See below Mr. Trigger Happy. - conorlarkin - 11:28am 7/25/09
      - Why would I need to read another of your posts? - TheIrishHammer - 8:05pm 7/25/09
  - True, but that's not the point with Gates. - jimbasil - 11:16am 7/25/09
    - Profiling - OCgoldendome - 12:09pm 7/25/09
      - That is the problem. Instead of working out what the facts and truths - jimbasil - 12:23pm 7/25/09
        I don't think anyone is saying the police were wrong for responding to a call. - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 12:29pm 7/25/09
        I'll buy that. [NT] - jimbasil - 12:31pm 7/25/09
    - Worse, PreBOs word got muddier. [NT] - Killshot - 11:47am 7/25/09
    - I think conor's point is: - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 11:28am 7/25/09
      - Actually, no it is not an issue worth talking about in THIS situation because it is immaterial. This - TontoGoldstein - 12:12pm 7/25/09
        How do you know? - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 12:25pm 7/25/09
        Because the black cop said it wasn't. It is a worthwhile issue, but shouldn't be raised EVERY time - TontoGoldstein - 12:35pm 7/25/09
        I agree in part, disagree in part. - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 12:46pm 7/25/09
        Enter the president - that tells you all you need to know. There is a presumption in this country - TontoGoldstein - 12:49pm 7/25/09
        You're wrong. But you're on to something. - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 12:59pm 7/25/09
        Truthfully, when I originally heard the story, I thought - "sounds like a black dude got hosed" Then - TontoGoldstein - 1:54pm 7/25/09
      - It's intrinsic I think. - jimbasil - 11:43am 7/25/09
        Define your terms: - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 11:52am 7/25/09
        Terms? [NT] - jimbasil - 12:01pm 7/25/09
        Yes. Terms. - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 12:07pm 7/25/09
        Pardon the hijack.... - Domer From Hell - 12:13pm 7/25/09
        Assuming that is the case: - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 12:18pm 7/25/09
        Sure there is.... - Domer From Hell - 1:14pm 7/25/09
        I haven't read the police report. - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 1:19pm 7/25/09
        Here it is.... [LINK] - Domer From Hell - 1:29pm 7/25/09
        Disagree. - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 1:42pm 7/25/09
        Nope. Gates was impeding an ongoing investigation and failed to comply. When he.... - Domer From Hell - 1:51pm 7/25/09
        Continue to disagree. - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 2:33pm 7/25/09
        He deserved what he got, period. [NT] - Domer From Hell - 10:37pm 7/25/09
        I won't say your wrong on that. - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 8:46am 7/26/09
        If an arrest wasn't merited, wouldn't there have been a reprimand or something?... - Domer From Hell - 11:50am 7/26/09
        No. - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 12:25pm 7/26/09
    - Somewhat agree. - conorlarkin - 11:26am 7/25/09
      - "Unfortunately, everyone's not as smart . . . - SouthCarolinaIrish - 12:56pm 7/25/09
      - "Unfortunately, everyone's not as smart and polished as me." this is where we agree. [NT] - jimbasil - 11:31am 7/25/09