That is the problem. Instead of working out what the facts and truths

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That is the problem. Instead of working out what the facts and truths

Author: jimbasil (45971 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 12:23 pm on Jul 25, 2009

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we (community leaders) hide behind divisive rhetoric and stupid obvious "fairplay" justifications.

The police didn't profile Gates, they responded to a call about a break in. A call by one of Gates neighbors. The Police did nothing wrong in responding to the call.

Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk

Replies to: "That is the problem. Instead of working out what the facts and truths"

Mark Steyn post script on Professor Gates... - Killshot - 10:58am 7/25/09 (73) [View All]
- It's amazing to me that anyone cares about this - Chris94 - 11:45am 7/25/09
  - You're half right.... - Frank L - 12:47pm 7/26/09
  - That you have no idea why this is an issue is what makes you a moron. - TheIrishHammer - 8:07pm 7/25/09
  - OMG!!!!Chris and I agree on something...holy shit...the end must be near. - FLIrishK9 - 12:43pm 7/25/09
    - Did you say "Near"? [NT] - jimbasil - 1:16pm 7/25/09
  - But here you are on a beautiful Saturday reading and posting... - Killshot - 12:30pm 7/25/09
  - You recognize that (1) Obama addressed this, and (2) it was going race card route till it blew up in - TontoGoldstein - 12:09pm 7/25/09
    - Clearly race is a factor in many of the decisions Obama makes.... - jabi - 5:32pm 7/25/09
      - Your comment does raise an interesting point.... - Frank L - 2:02pm 7/26/09
  - It is because President Obama made a stupid comment. - Tom Hynes - 11:53am 7/25/09
    - Obama's comment was nuts. - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 11:59am 7/25/09
      - Only to those who didn't vote for him based solely on the color of his skin. [NT] - TontoGoldstein - 12:10pm 7/25/09
        Plenty of us Obama supporters believe he spoke "stupidly" on this [NT] - ND_in_ATL - 10:41am 7/27/09
    - Very true - Chris94 - 11:56am 7/25/09
- I gather that Skip Gates is an A-Hole, and acted as such w/ Officer Crowley, but ........ - conorlarkin - 11:06am 7/25/09
  - "And I know what I'm taking about on this, ..... trust me." Are you a black man living in America? - FLIrishK9 - 12:55pm 7/25/09
    - I was talking in general terms K9. - conorlarkin - 1:42pm 7/25/09
      - Don't take this personally, conor, but lawyers ARE scumbags. - TheIrishHammer - 8:31pm 7/25/09
      - Well seeing how I know of no other law enforcement officers on this board, I have to stand up for us - FLIrishK9 - 2:12pm 7/25/09
        You forgot about me, at one time I was a chief law enforcement officer. - Tom Hynes - 2:31pm 7/25/09
        Forgot? Fondly remembered as the days when the Eleventh Judicial District could handle insurgencies. [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 8:11am 7/26/09
  - Yes, but was race a factor in THIS policing and should Obama have spoken without the facts? Those - TontoGoldstein - 12:11pm 7/25/09
    - That's a 1st Amendment issue. - conorlarkin - 1:43pm 7/25/09
      - It's an "I'm an idiot" issue. - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 2:41pm 7/25/09
  - OK, but in contradistinction, who is safer... - Killshot - 11:45am 7/25/09
    - Who looks the other way when whites get beat up by blacks? - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 11:57am 7/25/09
      - Agree, but it is ironic that when a group of white kids beat up a black kid, it's considered a..... - Domer From Hell - 12:09pm 7/25/09
        Is that true? - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 12:22pm 7/25/09
        I challenge you to find ONE case where blacks were charged with a hate crime... - Domer From Hell - 1:15pm 7/25/09
        Interestingly, . . - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 1:19pm 7/25/09
        Alan Iverson...before he he went to Georgetown got in a bowling alley brawl. Charged with lynching. [NT] - CC Fond - 8:47am 7/26/09
        
        Excellent. I'd be interested in seeing the percentage. [NT] - Domer From Hell - 1:21pm 7/25/09
        Here's a starter. [LINK] - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 1:33pm 7/25/09
        I'm surprised. As a white male, I had no idea I was protected by a hate crimes legislation.... - Domer From Hell - 1:36pm 7/25/09
        The reason you don't hear about it: People don't use anti-white bias as a political football. - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 1:44pm 7/25/09
  - You're right. - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 11:23am 7/25/09
  - And your point? - TheIrishHammer - 11:20am 7/25/09
    - I resent your comment on W Heights. - jimbasil - 11:30am 7/25/09
    - See below Mr. Trigger Happy. - conorlarkin - 11:28am 7/25/09
      - Why would I need to read another of your posts? - TheIrishHammer - 8:05pm 7/25/09
  - True, but that's not the point with Gates. - jimbasil - 11:16am 7/25/09
    - Profiling - OCgoldendome - 12:09pm 7/25/09
      - That is the problem. Instead of working out what the facts and truths - jimbasil - 12:23pm 7/25/09
        I don't think anyone is saying the police were wrong for responding to a call. - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 12:29pm 7/25/09
        I'll buy that. [NT] - jimbasil - 12:31pm 7/25/09
    - Worse, PreBOs word got muddier. [NT] - Killshot - 11:47am 7/25/09
    - I think conor's point is: - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 11:28am 7/25/09
      - Actually, no it is not an issue worth talking about in THIS situation because it is immaterial. This - TontoGoldstein - 12:12pm 7/25/09
        How do you know? - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 12:25pm 7/25/09
        Because the black cop said it wasn't. It is a worthwhile issue, but shouldn't be raised EVERY time - TontoGoldstein - 12:35pm 7/25/09
        I agree in part, disagree in part. - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 12:46pm 7/25/09
        Enter the president - that tells you all you need to know. There is a presumption in this country - TontoGoldstein - 12:49pm 7/25/09
        You're wrong. But you're on to something. - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 12:59pm 7/25/09
        Truthfully, when I originally heard the story, I thought - "sounds like a black dude got hosed" Then - TontoGoldstein - 1:54pm 7/25/09
      - It's intrinsic I think. - jimbasil - 11:43am 7/25/09
        Define your terms: - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 11:52am 7/25/09
        Terms? [NT] - jimbasil - 12:01pm 7/25/09
        Yes. Terms. - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 12:07pm 7/25/09
        Pardon the hijack.... - Domer From Hell - 12:13pm 7/25/09
        Assuming that is the case: - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 12:18pm 7/25/09
        Sure there is.... - Domer From Hell - 1:14pm 7/25/09
        I haven't read the police report. - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 1:19pm 7/25/09
        Here it is.... [LINK] - Domer From Hell - 1:29pm 7/25/09
        Disagree. - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 1:42pm 7/25/09
        Nope. Gates was impeding an ongoing investigation and failed to comply. When he.... - Domer From Hell - 1:51pm 7/25/09
        Continue to disagree. - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 2:33pm 7/25/09
        He deserved what he got, period. [NT] - Domer From Hell - 10:37pm 7/25/09
        I won't say your wrong on that. - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 8:46am 7/26/09
        If an arrest wasn't merited, wouldn't there have been a reprimand or something?... - Domer From Hell - 11:50am 7/26/09
        No. - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 12:25pm 7/26/09
    - Somewhat agree. - conorlarkin - 11:26am 7/25/09
      - "Unfortunately, everyone's not as smart . . . - SouthCarolinaIrish - 12:56pm 7/25/09
      - "Unfortunately, everyone's not as smart and polished as me." this is where we agree. [NT] - jimbasil - 11:31am 7/25/09