Stalemate

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Stalemate

Author: Chris94 (37825 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:54 pm on Aug 16, 2023

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Not likely the counteroffensive is going to produce a big breakthrough at this point. It recovered about 100 square miles so far, which is not much.

Both sides need to get to the point that they are ready to make a deal. Neither is there yet - but both are closer.

Read recently that the Russians are firing 60,000 artillery rounds a day. That’s an amazing number. This is still a very high intensity war.

Also, the ruble is crashing. Internal pressure on Putin is going to grow.

Replies to: "Stalemate"

Ukraine. So. Where we at? [NT] - Cole - 9:39pm 8/16/23 (30) [View All]
- Now the media is peddling "the weak ruble" story to dangle false hope as Biden asks for another 25B - BaronVonZemo - 7:29am 8/17/23
  - If a weak ruble leads to a swifter end to this war then I'm all for it, but I agree with you that - Cole - 8:26am 8/17/23
  - Fake news! [NT] - Iggle - 7:37am 8/17/23
- I'm right here enjoying stories about the abortion of the last caucasian repressive autocracy. [LINK] - Curly1918 - 7:23am 8/17/23
  - The walls are closing in on Putin? [NT] - Cole - 8:27am 8/17/23
    - There has already been a rebellion and coup attempt, dude. - Iggle - 9:39am 8/17/23
- I'm right here enjoying stories about the abortion of the last caucasian repressive autocracy. [LINK] - Curly1918 - 7:23am 8/17/23
- Keep an eye on the Rubble... Errrr.... Ruble. - Iggle - 6:59am 8/17/23
- I suppose we hope they punch each other out and then it's moot. - iairishcheeks - 11:38pm 8/16/23
- 1. Russian Military industrial complex (MIC) beat NATO MIC badly. NATO arsenal will be exhausted - Eli - 11:26pm 8/16/23
  - Another interesting fact is they now know how to jam our GPS on the Himars - Cole - 3:37am 8/17/23
    - I sense an appropriation for an anti-GPS-jamming missile (AGPSRM?). - NedoftheHill - 10:55am 8/17/23
  - Amazing! You should stop getting your news from TASS. [NT] - Chris94 - 11:45pm 8/16/23
    - Even in your own post you are amazed by Russia's artilleries. - Eli - 12:11am 8/17/23
- Stalemate - Chris94 - 9:54pm 8/16/23
  - So then, another Afghanistan. Another Vietnam. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 7:24am 8/17/23
    - Neither. Unless you mean Afghanistan 1979. - Chris94 - 1:02pm 8/17/23
      - Be less literal. While not directly involved (yet), we are fully committed financially in prolonging - BaronVonZemo - 11:42pm 8/17/23
  - Yet Biden and Co want to keep funding the war effort, another $24B. - iairishcheeks - 1:51am 8/17/23
  - The current stage is the war of attrition. Its a part of war of territory. [NT] - Eli - 12:27am 8/17/23
  - Why do you say stalemate when Ukraine lost territory? [NT] - Cole - 10:01pm 8/16/23
    - Ok, stalemate along the frontlines as they were in about May 2022. Happy? [NT] - Chris94 - 11:44pm 8/16/23
      - Stalemate necessarily means the counteroffensive has failed. Like you, I and Eli - Cole - 3:40am 8/17/23
    - The day that Ukraine gains territory (e.g., by taking Russian territory) things will get interesting - NedoftheHill - 10:46pm 8/16/23
- Why do you ask? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 9:49pm 8/16/23
  - Because we have an open border and $150b dedicated to Ukraine. [NT] - Cole - 10:03pm 8/16/23
    - Valid complaint. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 7:23am 8/17/23
    - Just found out tonight that trangender Ukrainian spokes(wo)man is an American citizen. Figures. - NedoftheHill - 10:45pm 8/16/23
      - The issue is that Putin wants a deal with the West to never truly arm Ukraine - Cole - 3:50am 8/17/23
        We hold all the cards in that we can give them Sudetenland any time we want. - NedoftheHill - 3:48pm 8/17/23

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