The issue is that Putin wants a deal with the West to never truly arm Ukraine

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The issue is that Putin wants a deal with the West to never truly arm Ukraine

Author: Cole (16309 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 3:50 am on Aug 17, 2023

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or agree to defend it. So we actually do hold the cards.

It's been a sad situation all around.

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Replies to: "The issue is that Putin wants a deal with the West to never truly arm Ukraine"

Ukraine. So. Where we at? [NT] - Cole - 9:39pm 8/16/23 (30) [View All]
- Now the media is peddling "the weak ruble" story to dangle false hope as Biden asks for another 25B - BaronVonZemo - 7:29am 8/17/23
  - If a weak ruble leads to a swifter end to this war then I'm all for it, but I agree with you that - Cole - 8:26am 8/17/23
  - Fake news! [NT] - Iggle - 7:37am 8/17/23
- I'm right here enjoying stories about the abortion of the last caucasian repressive autocracy. [LINK] - Curly1918 - 7:23am 8/17/23
  - The walls are closing in on Putin? [NT] - Cole - 8:27am 8/17/23
    - There has already been a rebellion and coup attempt, dude. - Iggle - 9:39am 8/17/23
- I'm right here enjoying stories about the abortion of the last caucasian repressive autocracy. [LINK] - Curly1918 - 7:23am 8/17/23
- Keep an eye on the Rubble... Errrr.... Ruble. - Iggle - 6:59am 8/17/23
- I suppose we hope they punch each other out and then it's moot. - iairishcheeks - 11:38pm 8/16/23
- 1. Russian Military industrial complex (MIC) beat NATO MIC badly. NATO arsenal will be exhausted - Eli - 11:26pm 8/16/23
  - Another interesting fact is they now know how to jam our GPS on the Himars - Cole - 3:37am 8/17/23
    - I sense an appropriation for an anti-GPS-jamming missile (AGPSRM?). - NedoftheHill - 10:55am 8/17/23
  - Amazing! You should stop getting your news from TASS. [NT] - Chris94 - 11:45pm 8/16/23
    - Even in your own post you are amazed by Russia's artilleries. - Eli - 12:11am 8/17/23
- Stalemate - Chris94 - 9:54pm 8/16/23
  - So then, another Afghanistan. Another Vietnam. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 7:24am 8/17/23
    - Neither. Unless you mean Afghanistan 1979. - Chris94 - 1:02pm 8/17/23
      - Be less literal. While not directly involved (yet), we are fully committed financially in prolonging - BaronVonZemo - 11:42pm 8/17/23
  - Yet Biden and Co want to keep funding the war effort, another $24B. - iairishcheeks - 1:51am 8/17/23
  - The current stage is the war of attrition. Its a part of war of territory. [NT] - Eli - 12:27am 8/17/23
  - Why do you say stalemate when Ukraine lost territory? [NT] - Cole - 10:01pm 8/16/23
    - Ok, stalemate along the frontlines as they were in about May 2022. Happy? [NT] - Chris94 - 11:44pm 8/16/23
      - Stalemate necessarily means the counteroffensive has failed. Like you, I and Eli - Cole - 3:40am 8/17/23
    - The day that Ukraine gains territory (e.g., by taking Russian territory) things will get interesting - NedoftheHill - 10:46pm 8/16/23
- Why do you ask? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 9:49pm 8/16/23
  - Because we have an open border and $150b dedicated to Ukraine. [NT] - Cole - 10:03pm 8/16/23
    - Valid complaint. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 7:23am 8/17/23
    - Just found out tonight that trangender Ukrainian spokes(wo)man is an American citizen. Figures. - NedoftheHill - 10:45pm 8/16/23
      - The issue is that Putin wants a deal with the West to never truly arm Ukraine - Cole - 3:50am 8/17/23
        We hold all the cards in that we can give them Sudetenland any time we want. - NedoftheHill - 3:48pm 8/17/23

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