If a weak ruble leads to a swifter end to this war then I'm all for it, but I agree with you that

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If a weak ruble leads to a swifter end to this war then I'm all for it, but I agree with you that

Author: Cole (16309 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 8:26 am on Aug 17, 2023

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it won't. Meanwhile, a couple of days ago, the chief of staff to the NATO Secretary General floated the idea that Ukraine could cede territory in exchange for NATO membership, which won't happen of course, because Russia won't do that deal. But the key thing is that NATO is looking for the exit door on this war, which is a sign that NATO finally recognizes that Ukraine can't "win," meaning it can't move Russia back to the old border.

Replies to: "If a weak ruble leads to a swifter end to this war then I'm all for it, but I agree with you that"

Ukraine. So. Where we at? [NT] - Cole - 9:39pm 8/16/23 (30) [View All]
- Now the media is peddling "the weak ruble" story to dangle false hope as Biden asks for another 25B - BaronVonZemo - 7:29am 8/17/23
  - If a weak ruble leads to a swifter end to this war then I'm all for it, but I agree with you that - Cole - 8:26am 8/17/23
  - Fake news! [NT] - Iggle - 7:37am 8/17/23
- I'm right here enjoying stories about the abortion of the last caucasian repressive autocracy. [LINK] - Curly1918 - 7:23am 8/17/23
  - The walls are closing in on Putin? [NT] - Cole - 8:27am 8/17/23
    - There has already been a rebellion and coup attempt, dude. - Iggle - 9:39am 8/17/23
- I'm right here enjoying stories about the abortion of the last caucasian repressive autocracy. [LINK] - Curly1918 - 7:23am 8/17/23
- Keep an eye on the Rubble... Errrr.... Ruble. - Iggle - 6:59am 8/17/23
- I suppose we hope they punch each other out and then it's moot. - iairishcheeks - 11:38pm 8/16/23
- 1. Russian Military industrial complex (MIC) beat NATO MIC badly. NATO arsenal will be exhausted - Eli - 11:26pm 8/16/23
  - Another interesting fact is they now know how to jam our GPS on the Himars - Cole - 3:37am 8/17/23
    - I sense an appropriation for an anti-GPS-jamming missile (AGPSRM?). - NedoftheHill - 10:55am 8/17/23
  - Amazing! You should stop getting your news from TASS. [NT] - Chris94 - 11:45pm 8/16/23
    - Even in your own post you are amazed by Russia's artilleries. - Eli - 12:11am 8/17/23
- Stalemate - Chris94 - 9:54pm 8/16/23
  - So then, another Afghanistan. Another Vietnam. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 7:24am 8/17/23
    - Neither. Unless you mean Afghanistan 1979. - Chris94 - 1:02pm 8/17/23
      - Be less literal. While not directly involved (yet), we are fully committed financially in prolonging - BaronVonZemo - 11:42pm 8/17/23
  - Yet Biden and Co want to keep funding the war effort, another $24B. - iairishcheeks - 1:51am 8/17/23
  - The current stage is the war of attrition. Its a part of war of territory. [NT] - Eli - 12:27am 8/17/23
  - Why do you say stalemate when Ukraine lost territory? [NT] - Cole - 10:01pm 8/16/23
    - Ok, stalemate along the frontlines as they were in about May 2022. Happy? [NT] - Chris94 - 11:44pm 8/16/23
      - Stalemate necessarily means the counteroffensive has failed. Like you, I and Eli - Cole - 3:40am 8/17/23
    - The day that Ukraine gains territory (e.g., by taking Russian territory) things will get interesting - NedoftheHill - 10:46pm 8/16/23
- Why do you ask? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 9:49pm 8/16/23
  - Because we have an open border and $150b dedicated to Ukraine. [NT] - Cole - 10:03pm 8/16/23
    - Valid complaint. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 7:23am 8/17/23
    - Just found out tonight that trangender Ukrainian spokes(wo)man is an American citizen. Figures. - NedoftheHill - 10:45pm 8/16/23
      - The issue is that Putin wants a deal with the West to never truly arm Ukraine - Cole - 3:50am 8/17/23
        We hold all the cards in that we can give them Sudetenland any time we want. - NedoftheHill - 3:48pm 8/17/23

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