It's obvious you are opining and haven't read the facts of allegations

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It's obvious you are opining and haven't read the facts of allegations

Author: Quest4twelve (7377 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 10:56 am on Nov 7, 2023

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Trump's own controller admitted to a scheme along with Allen Wisselberg to make intentionally change and/or omit key information to achieve loans. Don't hail cheats like Trump as being wronged by the man. Smack that Kool-Aid out with your other hand and come back to Earth and admire people who do good in this world.

Replies to: "It's obvious you are opining and haven't read the facts of allegations"

Didn't realize Trump is the only NY real estate businessman ever accused of overvaluing property. - NedoftheHill - 10:39am 11/7/23 (67) [View All]
- Repeatedly Over and Under Valuing properties hasn't been DJT's only fraud...never forget how he [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 3:15pm 11/7/23
- They know that there is no chance this will stand up to appeal, just costing Trump money. [NT] - PaND - 12:45pm 11/7/23
  - Probably correct. - NedoftheHill - 1:18pm 11/7/23
    - The media will put this in prime time, but will bury it when he wins on appeal. They can't beat him - BaronVonZemo - 2:45pm 11/7/23
- As it turns out, being president raises a person's profile. I guess that is news to you. [NT] - Chris94 - 12:09pm 11/7/23
  - Not for Joe Biden. [NT] - Cole - 12:31pm 11/7/23
    - Actually it kind of did. We probably would've never know how much the big guy and his family made - MuskyTommy - 1:25pm 11/7/23
      - Exactly. If he’s not prez, none of that is an issue either. [NT] - Frank L - 1:55pm 11/7/23
        He could have been on the beach drinking cocktails and more than likely no one would - MuskyTommy - 2:36pm 11/7/23
    - A whatabout. Did not see that coming. [NT] - Chris94 - 12:35pm 11/7/23
      - The hypocrite's greatest defense. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 2:43pm 11/7/23
      - Your answer to accusation of selective prosecution is "your not allowed to say that." - NedoftheHill - 1:00pm 11/7/23
        First of all it’s not a prosecution, it’s a civil fraud claim. - Frank L - 1:53pm 11/7/23
        You don't refute my point. It is selective, for political reasons. - NedoftheHill - 5:09pm 11/7/23
        Nonsense. The guy is running in part to use that as a defense. - Frank L - 9:22pm 11/7/23
      - Joe took bribes. [NT] - PaND - 12:46pm 11/7/23
        So did Bill and Hillary. Also, Obama wasn't born in the US. [NT] - Quest4twelve - 1:22pm 11/7/23
        Straw man. And irrelevant. Joe took bribes for policy from our enemies and others. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 2:44pm 11/7/23
    - Really? Seems like he’s getting a lot of investigations right now. When is Comer gonna fess up his - Frank L - 12:33pm 11/7/23
  - The unbelievable need to defend this guy for everything is fascinating. - Frank L - 12:21pm 11/7/23
    - Yet you prosecute him for everything, always. [NT] - PaND - 12:27pm 11/7/23
- It's obvious you are opining and haven't read the facts of allegations - Quest4twelve - 10:56am 11/7/23
  - Yeah, and if you don’t catch us it’s on you bank. MAGA moronity. [NT] - Frank L - 11:19am 11/7/23
  - Just stating a simple fact. Don't you agree that is amazing? Then again, he was too pale & too male. - NedoftheHill - 10:59am 11/7/23
    - Yep the pale and male was a key factor. [NT] - Frank L - 12:17pm 11/7/23
    - You take a risk if you run for president as a lifetime cheat. - Chris94 - 12:12pm 11/7/23
      - If you are a Republican, anyway. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 6:04pm 11/7/23
    - No, it's amazing you feel cheats like Trump have been "wronged". Says a lot about your morals. [NT] - Quest4twelve - 11:01am 11/7/23
      - It really is. Orange claims that he can inflate his worth to get loans at favorable rates, - Frank L - 11:46am 11/7/23
      - Does it bother you that the judge said he wasn't there to listen to the defendant's testimony? - NedoftheHill - 11:02am 11/7/23
        Yes that is exactly what he said! Good laugh at that one. [NT] - Chris94 - 12:36pm 11/7/23
        
        That’s BS. He didn’t say that. He said he was there to hear him answer questions which is what - Frank L - 11:05am 11/7/23
        Were you in the gallery with Letitia? Guess we'll have to wait for the appeal. - NedoftheHill - 11:06am 11/7/23
        No, but I read the report of what the Judge said. There is also something called a transcript which - Frank L - 11:08am 11/7/23
        Yes. Of course, as far as I know, they haven't released a transcript. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 1:25pm 11/7/23
        Don’t think that is true. It’s public proceeding and daily copy should be easy to get. - Frank L - 1:45pm 11/7/23
        Heh. Neither of us has the transcript, but you say I'm wrong. I'll wait. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 6:05pm 11/7/23
        From the reporting I read you are. Not unusual either. [NT] - Frank L - 9:21pm 11/7/23
        
        I'm not familiar with the judge not wanting to hear Trump's "testimony". What he say? [NT] - Quest4twelve - 11:04am 11/7/23
        He kept cutting off Trump's testimony. Lawyer objected. Said he wasn't there to listen to Trump. - NedoftheHill - 11:05am 11/7/23
        I knew what you were doing hence testimony in quotes. Trump deflected, rambled and did everything - Quest4twelve - 11:20am 11/7/23
        
        That’s what you do when there is unresponsive testimony and the witness is trying to conduct - Frank L - 11:07am 11/7/23
        You are a litigator. You think it is OK, then fine. Is this a civil case? - NedoftheHill - 11:32am 11/7/23
        Yes it is. Anyone not named Trump would have been cut off and sanctioned if they pulled that shit - Frank L - 11:38am 11/7/23
        Any one not named Trump wouldn't be in that courtroom. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 12:59pm 11/7/23
        Bullshit. That fraud was massive. No one else would have the stupidity and balls to do it. [NT] - Frank L - 1:41pm 11/7/23
        . [NT] - Frank L - 1:42pm 11/7/23
- A supposed fraud with no victims or losses. [NT] - irishsmashmouth - 10:51am 11/7/23
  - Insurance fraud has no victims? Interesting take. [NT] - Chris94 - 12:11pm 11/7/23
  - Except the banks that lost millions in interest. You ever had to personally guarantee a loan and - Frank L - 11:02am 11/7/23
    - They can't wrap their mind around a "civil trial." - Chris94 - 12:24pm 11/7/23
    - Ridiculous and not true at all. [NT] - PaND - 11:16am 11/7/23
    - So banks will just take my word for it. Great. I'm going to get a big loan later today. Thanks. - irishsmashmouth - 11:13am 11/7/23
      - Then why do you submit one if you can just lie on it and say catch me if you can with your own - Frank L - 11:17am 11/7/23
        + [NT] - irishsmashmouth - 11:20am 11/7/23
        
        Absolutely nothing criminal, the bank would just reject your application. [NT] - PaND - 11:19am 11/7/23
        Frank is not a sharp as he thinks he is. [NT] - irishsmashmouth - 11:22am 11/7/23
    - Heh. Amazing that they didn't notice or do their own due diligence. Banks are so stupid with money. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 11:08am 11/7/23
      - Frank's brain is mush. [NT] - PaND - 11:17am 11/7/23
        Some may go as far to say a piss brain, [NT] - irishsmashmouth - 11:21am 11/7/23
        Let's knock if off with the name calling - Mark - 3:55pm 11/7/23
      - So that exculpates the criminal, that they didn’t catch him? [NT] - Frank L - 11:10am 11/7/23
        No. It just shows that they only prosecute for political reasons. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 11:33am 11/7/23
        That’s what the cult believes. He’s been getting away with fraud for years until the whistle finally - Frank L - 11:41am 11/7/23
        The only guy in NY doing that, too. Amazing he got away with it for so long. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 1:33pm 11/7/23
        Just the biggest one. [NT] - Frank L - 1:42pm 11/7/23