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Repeatedly Over and Under Valuing properties hasn't been DJT's only fraud...never forget how he

Author: TyroneIrish (22072 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 3:15 pm on Nov 7, 2023
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treated those without the means to hold him accountable...such as the case in which The Donald purposely stiffed the architect of one of his golf course club houses...e.g.
Andrew Tesoro, owner of "Tesoro Architects"...from the attached article...
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In 2002, the Trump Organization hired Tesoro’s firm to design the Westchester golf course’s clubhouse. As Tesoro noted in a video produced by Hillary Clinton’s campaign, Donald Trump had even personally commented on and approved the design.

But when it came to payment time (a rumored $140,000), Trump’s company only offered to pay the architect $25,000. When he protested, members from Trump’s company invited him to the same building he designed and allegedly intimidated him into accepting the smaller amount.

When the architect called for a personal meeting with the Donald, the developer told Tesoro that he’d already paid all he could and that too much money had been spent on the project. Trump’s lawyer allegedly informed Tesoro that while he might win a lawsuit, he would be drowned by the legal costs relating to it, and hence Tesoro abandoned any notion of doing so.

Tesoro’s small business was virtually left bankrupt as a result, and he had to use the money set aside for his son’s college education, and most of his savings to eventually rescue his firm.


"Because I was the little guy, he was winning and wanted to keep winning, and his definition of winning is making sure the other guy loses," Tesoro says in the video. "And that way of doing business is just not very fair to the little guy."

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It's incredible that some people who consider themselves to be of high moral character...like you...defend Donald Trump...unbelievable...now listen to that "Little Guy" in his own words...




Link: https://ny.curbed.com/2016/9/27/13075816/donald-trump-golf-club-westchester-architect

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Replies to: "Repeatedly Over and Under Valuing properties hasn't been DJT's only fraud...never forget how he"

  • Didn't realize Trump is the only NY real estate businessman ever accused of overvaluing property. - NedoftheHill - 10:39am 11/7/23 (67) [View All]
    • Repeatedly Over and Under Valuing properties hasn't been DJT's only fraud...never forget how he [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 3:15pm 11/7/23
    • They know that there is no chance this will stand up to appeal, just costing Trump money. [NT] - PaND - 12:45pm 11/7/23
      • Probably correct. - NedoftheHill - 1:18pm 11/7/23
        • The media will put this in prime time, but will bury it when he wins on appeal. They can't beat him - BaronVonZemo - 2:45pm 11/7/23
    • As it turns out, being president raises a person's profile. I guess that is news to you. [NT] - Chris94 - 12:09pm 11/7/23
      • Not for Joe Biden. [NT] - Cole - 12:31pm 11/7/23
        • Actually it kind of did. We probably would've never know how much the big guy and his family made - MuskyTommy - 1:25pm 11/7/23
          • Exactly. If he’s not prez, none of that is an issue either. [NT] - Frank L - 1:55pm 11/7/23
            • He could have been on the beach drinking cocktails and more than likely no one would - MuskyTommy - 2:36pm 11/7/23
        • A whatabout. Did not see that coming. [NT] - Chris94 - 12:35pm 11/7/23
          • The hypocrite's greatest defense. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 2:43pm 11/7/23
          • Your answer to accusation of selective prosecution is "your not allowed to say that." - NedoftheHill - 1:00pm 11/7/23
            • First of all it’s not a prosecution, it’s a civil fraud claim. - Frank L - 1:53pm 11/7/23
              • You don't refute my point. It is selective, for political reasons. - NedoftheHill - 5:09pm 11/7/23
                • Nonsense. The guy is running in part to use that as a defense. - Frank L - 9:22pm 11/7/23
          • Joe took bribes. [NT] - PaND - 12:46pm 11/7/23
            • So did Bill and Hillary. Also, Obama wasn't born in the US. [NT] - Quest4twelve - 1:22pm 11/7/23
              • Straw man. And irrelevant. Joe took bribes for policy from our enemies and others. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 2:44pm 11/7/23
        • Really? Seems like he’s getting a lot of investigations right now. When is Comer gonna fess up his - Frank L - 12:33pm 11/7/23
      • The unbelievable need to defend this guy for everything is fascinating. - Frank L - 12:21pm 11/7/23
        • Yet you prosecute him for everything, always. [NT] - PaND - 12:27pm 11/7/23
    • It's obvious you are opining and haven't read the facts of allegations - Quest4twelve - 10:56am 11/7/23
      • Yeah, and if you don’t catch us it’s on you bank. MAGA moronity. [NT] - Frank L - 11:19am 11/7/23
      • Just stating a simple fact. Don't you agree that is amazing? Then again, he was too pale & too male. - NedoftheHill - 10:59am 11/7/23
        • Yep the pale and male was a key factor. [NT] - Frank L - 12:17pm 11/7/23
        • You take a risk if you run for president as a lifetime cheat. - Chris94 - 12:12pm 11/7/23
          • If you are a Republican, anyway. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 6:04pm 11/7/23
        • No, it's amazing you feel cheats like Trump have been "wronged". Says a lot about your morals. [NT] - Quest4twelve - 11:01am 11/7/23
          • It really is. Orange claims that he can inflate his worth to get loans at favorable rates, - Frank L - 11:46am 11/7/23
          • Does it bother you that the judge said he wasn't there to listen to the defendant's testimony? - NedoftheHill - 11:02am 11/7/23
            • Yes that is exactly what he said! Good laugh at that one. [NT] - Chris94 - 12:36pm 11/7/23
            • That’s BS. He didn’t say that. He said he was there to hear him answer questions which is what - Frank L - 11:05am 11/7/23
              • Were you in the gallery with Letitia? Guess we'll have to wait for the appeal. - NedoftheHill - 11:06am 11/7/23
                • No, but I read the report of what the Judge said. There is also something called a transcript which - Frank L - 11:08am 11/7/23
                  • Yes. Of course, as far as I know, they haven't released a transcript. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 1:25pm 11/7/23
                    • Don’t think that is true. It’s public proceeding and daily copy should be easy to get. - Frank L - 1:45pm 11/7/23
                      • Heh. Neither of us has the transcript, but you say I'm wrong. I'll wait. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 6:05pm 11/7/23
                        • From the reporting I read you are. Not unusual either. [NT] - Frank L - 9:21pm 11/7/23
            • I'm not familiar with the judge not wanting to hear Trump's "testimony". What he say? [NT] - Quest4twelve - 11:04am 11/7/23
              • He kept cutting off Trump's testimony. Lawyer objected. Said he wasn't there to listen to Trump. - NedoftheHill - 11:05am 11/7/23
                • I knew what you were doing hence testimony in quotes. Trump deflected, rambled and did everything - Quest4twelve - 11:20am 11/7/23
                • That’s what you do when there is unresponsive testimony and the witness is trying to conduct - Frank L - 11:07am 11/7/23
                  • You are a litigator. You think it is OK, then fine. Is this a civil case? - NedoftheHill - 11:32am 11/7/23
                    • Yes it is. Anyone not named Trump would have been cut off and sanctioned if they pulled that shit - Frank L - 11:38am 11/7/23
                      • Any one not named Trump wouldn't be in that courtroom. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 12:59pm 11/7/23
                        • Bullshit. That fraud was massive. No one else would have the stupidity and balls to do it. [NT] - Frank L - 1:41pm 11/7/23
                          • . [NT] - Frank L - 1:42pm 11/7/23
    • A supposed fraud with no victims or losses. [NT] - irishsmashmouth - 10:51am 11/7/23
      • Insurance fraud has no victims? Interesting take. [NT] - Chris94 - 12:11pm 11/7/23
      • Except the banks that lost millions in interest. You ever had to personally guarantee a loan and - Frank L - 11:02am 11/7/23
        • They can't wrap their mind around a "civil trial." - Chris94 - 12:24pm 11/7/23
        • Ridiculous and not true at all. [NT] - PaND - 11:16am 11/7/23
        • So banks will just take my word for it. Great. I'm going to get a big loan later today. Thanks. - irishsmashmouth - 11:13am 11/7/23
          • Then why do you submit one if you can just lie on it and say catch me if you can with your own - Frank L - 11:17am 11/7/23
            • + [NT] - irishsmashmouth - 11:20am 11/7/23
            • Absolutely nothing criminal, the bank would just reject your application. [NT] - PaND - 11:19am 11/7/23
              • Frank is not a sharp as he thinks he is. [NT] - irishsmashmouth - 11:22am 11/7/23
        • Heh. Amazing that they didn't notice or do their own due diligence. Banks are so stupid with money. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 11:08am 11/7/23
          • Frank's brain is mush. [NT] - PaND - 11:17am 11/7/23
            • Some may go as far to say a piss brain, [NT] - irishsmashmouth - 11:21am 11/7/23
              • Let's knock if off with the name calling - Mark - 3:55pm 11/7/23
          • So that exculpates the criminal, that they didn’t catch him? [NT] - Frank L - 11:10am 11/7/23
            • No. It just shows that they only prosecute for political reasons. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 11:33am 11/7/23
              • That’s what the cult believes. He’s been getting away with fraud for years until the whistle finally - Frank L - 11:41am 11/7/23
                • The only guy in NY doing that, too. Amazing he got away with it for so long. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 1:33pm 11/7/23
                  • Just the biggest one. [NT] - Frank L - 1:42pm 11/7/23
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