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So…pro-some-life? Or pro-certain-lives-but-not-others?
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Chris94
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Posted at 3:03 pm on Jan 8, 2024
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Replies to: "So…pro-some-life? Or pro-certain-lives-but-not-others?"
Pope Francis excoriates libs who support surrogate babies atrocity.
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Hensou
- 12:34pm 1/8/24
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I don't really understand the objection here
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Chris94
- 1:05pm 1/8/24
Yes, I agree with you.
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Iggle
- 5:41pm 1/8/24
Willfully creating a life with the explicit intent of depriving it of its Mother. It's wrong.
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jakers
- 2:06pm 1/8/24
From the child’s perspective motherhood is more crucial after birth.!
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Curly1918
- 5:03pm 1/8/24
Not that simple.
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Hensou
- 8:18pm 1/8/24
Not to nutties like him.
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Frank L
- 6:31pm 1/8/24
It creates life, though
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Chris94
- 2:10pm 1/8/24
Generally speaking, Pro-Lifers don't want life created for the sake of doing so.
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jakers
- 2:31pm 1/8/24
So…pro-some-life? Or pro-certain-lives-but-not-others?
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Chris94
- 3:03pm 1/8/24
Pro-life has never meant creating as much life as we can at all times with all technology available.
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NedoftheHill
- 5:43pm 1/8/24
So should my niece and nephew have been created through IVF or not
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Chris94
- 5:46pm 1/8/24
Not GOAT. You are a secular humanist.
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Hensou
- 8:13pm 1/8/24
I am glad for your niece and nephew.
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NedoftheHill
- 7:31pm 1/8/24
Once again...Pope Francis states that "Personhood" of a fetus is debated...and always has been...
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TyroneIrish
- 12:20am 1/9/24
Once again...a deliberate misrepresentation by you. Upset the Pope finds your position deplorable?
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TakethetrainKnute
- 1:38pm 1/9/24
It's a statement of fact...Pope Francis said that the Personhood of a fetus is debated...therefore,
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TyroneIrish
- 2:40pm 1/9/24
Read what I provided...and then re-read it again. If you understood it, you would apologize as it..
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TakethetrainKnute
- 3:24pm 1/9/24
I copied the concluding paragraph of your own link..."What's it all mean?..." and it backs up what I
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TyroneIrish
- 3:54pm 1/9/24
I've read the entire article 3 times now...you're continuing to avoid the key issue...i.e. the RCC
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TyroneIrish
- 5:14pm 1/9/24
Yawn...
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TakethetrainKnute
- 5:29pm 1/9/24
Sooner or later you're going to have to face this issue, since this is why 90% of Americans...
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TyroneIrish
- 6:53pm 1/9/24
Again re-read...
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TakethetrainKnute
- 4:13pm 1/9/24
He has a penchant for lying.
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PaND
- 1:52pm 1/9/24
Of course they should have.
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jakers
- 7:15pm 1/8/24
Perhaps anti-abortion is a clearer phrasing.
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jakers
- 3:18pm 1/8/24
Generally speaking,Libs think God is not necessary for the Creation Of Life.
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Hensou
- 2:56pm 1/8/24
Did God create the neanderthals, and did they have souls?
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iairishcheeks
- 3:04pm 1/8/24
Not rational souls.
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Hensou
- 3:15pm 1/8/24
Neanderthals and Homo Sapiens intermixed, and the offspring were fertile.
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Iggle
- 5:38pm 1/8/24
Correct, people believed in centaurs and such...
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iairishcheeks
- 6:07pm 1/8/24
As we continue to learn more about them, they continue to be revealed as more like us.
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iairishcheeks
- 3:50pm 1/8/24
???
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Hensou
- 4:27pm 1/8/24
Apologies, substitute Genesis, even more radical and less likely to be truein my mind.
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iairishcheeks
- 4:38pm 1/8/24
The major problem with the dogmatic approach is that..
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iairishcheeks
- 6:04pm 1/8/24
The Pharisee cudgel doesn’t apply here.
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Hensou
- 7:48pm 1/8/24
Your obsession with the neanderthals is interesting.
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iairishcheeks
- 9:39pm 1/8/24
You brought them up. You tout them. Not me.
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Hensou
- 3:50am 1/9/24
Thanks for the laugh, Tyrone.
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iairishcheeks
- 3:57am 1/9/24
"As we continue to learn more about them, they continue to be revealed as more like us."
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Hensou
- 10:36am 1/9/24
That was a response to your unclever assertion.
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iairishcheeks
- 12:59pm 1/9/24
False. "Did God create the neanderthals, and did they have souls?"
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Hensou
- 1:49pm 1/9/24
Yes, that was a really interesting question I asked.
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iairishcheeks
- 4:10pm 1/9/24
It was not. And you lie.
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Hensou
- 6:19pm 1/9/24
Not ridiculous at all. Quite rational.
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Hensou
- 4:49pm 1/8/24
Actually, this issue of Evolution w/in the Catholic Church is still the subject of debate...(link)
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TyroneIrish
- 5:43pm 1/8/24
God creates life, fool.
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Hensou
- 2:21pm 1/8/24
Well then wouldn’t He refuse to do it for surrogates if He objected to the practice?
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Chris94
- 3:01pm 1/8/24
God allows man free will. People don't always follow His advice.
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Hensou
- 3:12pm 1/8/24
But either He creates life He objects to or you are wrong. Which is it?
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Chris94
- 3:31pm 1/8/24
Your words are lies.
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Hensou
- 3:47pm 1/8/24
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Hensou
- 3:41pm 1/8/24
I suspect that the abuses outlined in the attached link are what has Francis' attention...
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TyroneIrish
- 1:50pm 1/8/24
Adoption is an alternative to abortion. Surrogacy is rent-a-womb for big bucks.
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Hensou
- 1:41pm 1/8/24
It's longstanding, not recent. Has nothing to do with LGBstuff.
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NedoftheHill
- 1:33pm 1/8/24
But it’s a bit crazy, no?
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Chris94
- 1:46pm 1/8/24
Responses within.
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NedoftheHill
- 5:40pm 1/8/24
Wars kill many human beings...but the RCC's Catechism approves of them if they are "Just", i.e.
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TyroneIrish
- 5:53pm 1/8/24
Your IVF take is neanderthal.
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Hensou
- 2:02pm 1/8/24
I have a niece and nephew who are alive because of IVF
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Chris94
- 2:08pm 1/8/24
That's another lie. They are alive because of God, the Great Creator. Not a petrie dish.
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Hensou
- 2:19pm 1/8/24
So God would have made them happen, with or without the Petrie dish?
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Chris94
- 2:59pm 1/8/24
As evidenced by the results of IVF, biology has everything to do with it...btw, I also have a nephew
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TyroneIrish
- 6:09pm 1/8/24
Lies. Again.
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Hensou
- 3:08pm 1/8/24
Seems to me that He overruled the medievalists in the Church, then, because those kids are alive
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Chris94
- 3:30pm 1/8/24
Your condescension is a sign of weakness.
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Hensou
- 3:46pm 1/8/24
I accept your concession of defeat.
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Chris94
- 4:06pm 1/8/24
An old, trite, condescending phrase by you.
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Hensou
- 4:31pm 1/8/24
But it’s a bit crazy, no?
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Chris94
- 1:46pm 1/8/24
Selective faux outrage.
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PaND
- 12:37pm 1/8/24