You would tell your loved ones -- women and children -- to stay in a war zone? Interesting. Curly seems to have done well for himself in life. I seriously doubt that he lacks the financial means to make this happen.
I just posted that I believe in self-defense. However, in the course of any war, commanders on both sides make decisions about when to fight and when to retreat. I guess the latter makes them cowards? There also inevitably comes a time when a side must initiate negotiations to end a war. Does this mean both sides should fight and one side should fight until its soldiers and resources are completely depleted? I guess, anything less would make them Neville Chamberlain or some brilliance like that. All the decisions made in situations like this involve tradeoffs. Securing of boundaries or making gains are balanced against losses of human beings/$/arms/et cetera. From many, including some here, there is no expense of lives and dollars that could ever outweigh the obligation to continue fighting.
The same people who get everything wrong in foreign policy have, naturally, gotten this splendid little war all wrong. Too many proles have stopped buying the propaganda.
One of the biggest things that has set this war apart, beyond the utter disinterest in negotiating an end from so many leaders, is the pretending that this was anything but a grossly lopsided conflict. What has happened was inevitable, and if we continue to listen to the lunatics who push it forward, it may lead to something far worse than Ukraine losing part of its country.
Oh, and the "Let's put Ukraine into NATO" stuff is also insanity.