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Both parties lack principles, because they are both built to obtain and retain power.

Author: iairishcheeks (24891 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:37 am on Nov 24, 2024

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List of people in politics that I think have actual principles and are in it for more than just power (this will be controversial, it is just my opinion and off the top of my head):
Bernie Sanders
Joe Manchin
Kyrsten Sinema
Tim Walz
Tulsi Gabbard
RFK Jr
Vivek Ramaswamy
AOC and the squad
Dean Phillips
Doug Burgum
Any 3rd party candidate for president (because you have no shot at actually winning)

Replies to: "Both parties lack principles, because they are both built to obtain and retain power."

FDR, JFK, Bill Clinton - what do they have in common? - jamie - 11:21am 11/24/24 (27) [View All]
- They are all further to the political right than the Democrat Party is today. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 5:39pm 11/24/24
- They embraced our Constitution and their oaths of office. [NT] - conorlarkin - 3:30pm 11/24/24
  - FDR's racial internment camps are constitutional? Would you say same thing if Trump set them up? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 5:38pm 11/24/24
    - WW II is not “Build that Wall!” - conorlarkin - 7:47pm 11/24/24
      - It’s not, but FDR was hardly respectful of the Constitution in putting American citizens in - Frank L - 8:32pm 11/24/24
        Trump is not on the same planet as FDR. That is the point. - conorlarkin - 8:50pm 11/24/24
        Not disagreeing, but FDR could play fast and loose with the Constitution when it suited his needs. - Frank L - 9:36pm 11/24/24
    - this is a great question to which you will get no answer. [NT] - und67 - 6:26pm 11/24/24
      - Yes, but conor indicates above that he has different standards for Dems than GOP. Hypocrite. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 2:28pm 11/25/24
- How could you possibly omit LBJ? - Nigel Tufnel - 2:58pm 11/24/24
- Easy, womanizers. FDR must have been quite kinky, wheelchair and all. [NT] - THEISMANCARR - 12:08pm 11/24/24
- I don’t think even Clinton or JFK assaulted 28 women. [NT] - Frank L - 11:45am 11/24/24
  - But Clinton almost certainly raped Juanita Broaddrick - MarkHarman - 7:18pm 11/24/24
    - I think he did and didn’t ignore it or say differently. You people though are just like the left in - Frank L - 8:29pm 11/24/24
  - They would be decleared to assault 280 women had they run today and got Trump treatment. - Eli - 12:07pm 11/24/24
    - As usual, you miss the point entirely. Clueless on steroids, killer. [NT] - Frank L - 12:27pm 11/24/24
      - You have a point? Your 60k posts only have one thing - TDS. [NT] - Eli - 12:35pm 11/24/24
        The point for those with pea sized brains is that Orange is way worse than any of those 3 morally. [NT] - Frank L - 12:45pm 11/24/24
        280 vs 28, who is worse morally? It's your teeny brain that couldn't understand my point. [NT] - Eli - 1:30pm 11/24/24
        You have no point. None of them assaulted 280 women in an era where you could get away with it - Frank L - 1:33pm 11/24/24
        How do you these 2 womanizers? Clinton, young, charming, popular in office for 8 years in Arkansas - Eli - 1:50pm 11/24/24
        Go away loser. Orange’s were real assaults. He described his style in the AH tape. [NT] - Frank L - 2:19pm 11/24/24
  - Are you keeping a score card ? [NT] - ColeyO - 11:49am 11/24/24
- Character doesn’t matter in WH. This is what D used to say and I heard during 1990s. [NT] - Eli - 11:43am 11/24/24
  - Indeed, and the GOP followed that script perfectly with Orange. - Frank L - 11:48am 11/24/24
- Both parties lack principles, because they are both built to obtain and retain power. - iairishcheeks - 11:37am 11/24/24
- ^^^This [NT] - ColeyO - 11:24am 11/24/24