What a moronic waste of lives for nothing. Absolutely nothing. This could've been negotiated. There are stupid wars (almost every one of them) and then there are stupid wars. This was entirely predictable and some here predicted it from the outset. It required no specialized knowledge to foresee this. Just an open mind. Jackasses here and elsewhere cheering it on like a football game. There is no virtue in entering a fight you cannot possibly win. This incompetent administration and most of our idiot Congress sacrificed a generation of young men in another country for nothing, subsidizing this quixotic war. Not only do we need a compilation of the rah-rah posts on this particular board, but we need a compilation of all the war hawks lying to the people about Ukraine's prospects.
Credit to Cole for staying on this when lesser guys responded with slurs. He was telling the truth. They were not. End of story.
Link: https://www.politico.eu/article/war-in-ukraine-occupied-territories-russia-volodymyr-zelenskyy/
Replies to: ""Ukraine lacks might to retake occupied territories, Zelenskyy concedes""
- "Ukraine lacks might to retake occupied territories, Zelenskyy concedes" [LINK]
- MAS - 3:13pm 12/19/24
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- The Administration now defines success as having “stood up to Putin” even though - Cole - 7:50pm 12/19/24
- There was no viable peace deal. Stop being a fool. [NT]
- Frank L - 8:29pm 12/19/24
- He knows that, but he’s too much of an idiot to admit it. He still thinks… - Domer From Hell - 8:50pm 12/19/24
- The head of NATO said there was a peace deal, and that the West rejected it. [NT]
- Cole - 9:07pm 12/19/24
- We’ve discussed the peace deal plenty of times… - Domer From Hell - 9:19pm 12/19/24
- Virtually any peace deal would have been better than this catastrophe. [NT]
- Cole - 9:38pm 12/19/24
- Not to the Ukrainians who don’t want to be absorbed or a vassal puppet state to Putin. - Frank L - 10:02pm 12/19/24
- No, he’d assimilate and join the invading force. [NT]
- Domer From Hell - 10:03pm 12/19/24
- He wasn’t in a C-141, destination Panama. Good thing that some like you were. [NT]
- Frank L - 10:07pm 12/19/24
- He doesn’t have the chest to put it all on the line. [NT]
- Domer From Hell - 10:13pm 12/19/24
- I don’t know if I would either. But I appreciate those who did/do. [NT] - Frank L - 10:14pm 12/19/24
- He doesn’t have the chest to put it all on the line. [NT]
- Domer From Hell - 10:13pm 12/19/24
- He wasn’t in a C-141, destination Panama. Good thing that some like you were. [NT]
- Frank L - 10:07pm 12/19/24
- No, he’d assimilate and join the invading force. [NT]
- Domer From Hell - 10:03pm 12/19/24
- Not to the Ukrainians who don’t want to be absorbed or a vassal puppet state to Putin. - Frank L - 10:02pm 12/19/24
- Virtually any peace deal would have been better than this catastrophe. [NT]
- Cole - 9:38pm 12/19/24
- A peace deal…..with Putin? Yeah right, not worth the paper it would be printed on. [NT] - Frank L - 9:08pm 12/19/24
- We’ve discussed the peace deal plenty of times… - Domer From Hell - 9:19pm 12/19/24
- The head of NATO said there was a peace deal, and that the West rejected it. [NT]
- Cole - 9:07pm 12/19/24
- He knows that, but he’s too much of an idiot to admit it. He still thinks… - Domer From Hell - 8:50pm 12/19/24
- It's absolutely disgusting. [NT] - MAS - 8:13pm 12/19/24
- There was no viable peace deal. Stop being a fool. [NT]
- Frank L - 8:29pm 12/19/24
- I don't understand your point. - NedoftheHill - 4:58pm 12/19/24
- This is a proxy war! It's provoked by the west, i.e. NATO expansion. - Eli - 7:10pm 12/19/24
- Of course, of course. They all know that. - MAS - 7:35pm 12/19/24
- So, I actually agree with you on most things. I wasn't looking to score points, or start a fight. - NedoftheHill - 10:50pm 12/19/24
- Your "Putin lover" point is also made by Kissinger: The demonization of Putin is not a policy. It's - Eli - 8:41pm 12/19/24
- There you have it folks. Demonizing Putin? Putin has needed no help with that. He’s a mass murderer - Frank L - 8:49pm 12/19/24
- 100%. These fools actually act like they give a shit about the Ukraine… - Domer From Hell - 9:00pm 12/19/24
- Wow…just wow [NT] - Domer From Hell - 8:45pm 12/19/24
- There you have it folks. Demonizing Putin? Putin has needed no help with that. He’s a mass murderer - Frank L - 8:49pm 12/19/24
- Apparently, you either have reading comprehension issues.. - Domer From Hell - 7:50pm 12/19/24
- Truth. [NT] - Frank L - 8:29pm 12/19/24
- Thank you for the Christmas present. - MAS - 8:13pm 12/19/24
- You’re the worst kind of American, Neville. [NT]
- Domer From Hell - 8:38pm 12/19/24
- "...and a Happy New Year!" [NT] - MAS - 9:18pm 12/19/24
- You’re the worst kind of American, Neville. [NT]
- Domer From Hell - 8:38pm 12/19/24
- Of course, of course. They all know that. - MAS - 7:35pm 12/19/24
- Would have been nice if Biden gave help when Zelensky begged for it but Biden only gave green light - BaronVonZemo - 5:21pm 12/19/24
- In the real world, Biden's administration gave Ukraine $650M in anti-air and anti-armor weapons [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 7:59pm 12/19/24
- He can’t be taken seriously anymore. He blames this all on Ukraine and the US despite the fact that - Frank L - 5:12pm 12/19/24
- This is a proxy war! It's provoked by the west, i.e. NATO expansion. - Eli - 7:10pm 12/19/24
- So Putin would be happy just to have the little he has gained by destroying his country? - Curly1918 - 3:29pm 12/19/24
- Stop being a warmonger. Just give it to him. No more endless wars! [NT]
- Frank L - 4:55pm 12/19/24
- You’re right. And we should give Taiwan to Xi as well. - Curly1918 - 5:46pm 12/19/24
- We won’t defend Taiwan. Shit, the idjits bleat when we just materially support Ukraine. [NT] - Frank L - 8:28pm 12/19/24
- You’re right. And we should give Taiwan to Xi as well. - Curly1918 - 5:46pm 12/19/24
- Stop being a warmonger. Just give it to him. No more endless wars! [NT]
- Frank L - 4:55pm 12/19/24
- The Administration now defines success as having “stood up to Putin” even though - Cole - 7:50pm 12/19/24