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Once again...no substance...and a predictably weak response. Here, with only a little effort

Author: TyroneIrish (20581 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 10:52 pm on Jan 13, 2025
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required, is documented evidence of why Private Universities feel the need to allow Legacy admissions...from the attached Wiki page (with references)...
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Legacy preference or legacy admission is a preference given by an institution or organization to certain applicants on the basis of their familial relationship to alumni of that institution.[3] It is most controversial in college admissions,[4] where students so admitted are referred to as legacies or legacy students. The practice is particularly widespread in the college admissions in the United States; almost three-quarters of research universities and nearly all liberal arts colleges grant legacy preferences in admissions.[5]

Schools vary in how broadly they extend legacy preferences, with some schools granting this favor only to children of undergraduate alumni, while other schools extend the favor to extended family, including: children, grandchildren, siblings, nephews, and nieces of alumni of undergraduate and graduate programs.[6] A 2005 analysis of 180,000 student records obtained from nineteen selective colleges and universities found that, within a set range of SAT scores, being a legacy raised an applicant's chances of admission by 19.7 percentage points.[7]

Legacy preferences are controversial, as the legacy students tend to be less qualified and less racially diverse than non-legacy students.[8] However, legacy students are economically beneficial to universities, as they are perceived to be more likely to donate to their university after graduation and have parents who are perceived to be more generous donors.[8] Legacy preferences are particularly prevalent at Ivy League universities and other selective private universities in the United States.[9]

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Currently, the Ivy League institutions are estimated to admit 10% to 15% of each entering class using legacy admissions.[21] For example, in the 2008 entering undergraduate class, the University of Pennsylvania admitted 41.7% of legacies who applied during the early decision admissions round and 33.9% of legacies who applied during the regular admissions cycle, versus 29.3% of all students who applied during the early decision admissions round and 16.4% of all who applied during the regular cycle.[22] In 2009, Princeton admitted 41.7% of legacy applicants—more than 4.5 times the 9.2% rate of non-legacies. Similarly, in 2006, Brown University admitted 33.5% of alumni children, significantly higher than the 13.8% overall admissions rate. In short, Ivy League and other top schools typically admit legacies at two to five times their overall admission rates.[23] Among top universities, the University of Notre Dame and Georgetown University are known to weigh legacy status heavily in their application processes.[24]
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As for academic qualifications...see the Wiki article chart...

Private Universities, especially...like Notre Dame...need Private donations...which often come from wealthy graduates...not taxpayers of the state they are in. Surely you can grasp the reality of this situation. And...a Religiously Oriented University...like ND...is very likely to use some of those donations to advance programs they believe strongly in...like "Diversity, Equity and Inclusion"...there you have it...all in a simple, easy to understand 'Nutshell'...you're welcome.


Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legacy_preferences

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Capture_d’écran_2023-02-11_213711.png

Replies to: "Once again...no substance...and a predictably weak response. Here, with only a little effort"

  • It’s the victims fault. - Hensou - 7:02pm 1/12/25 (43) [View All]
    • University of Notre Dame..."Our Commitment to Diversity, Equity and Inclusion"... [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 9:03pm 1/12/25
      • MLK and Hesburgh turning over in their graves. Never thought they'd see racism at ND like DEI. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 10:56pm 1/12/25
        • Marcus Freeman just said it best at the NC press conference yesterday…. - BaronVonZemo - 10:12am 1/13/25
          • The Proud Boys, Oath Keepers and scores of other Racist groups who are welcomed in the GOP are - TyroneIrish - 3:05pm 1/14/25
        • LOL Hesburg tried his Chinese on my Japanese friend… they all look alike. He was one of those. [NT] - Protagonist - 1:54am 1/13/25
          • Well I guess your rendition of that anecdote is all anyone needs to know on this subject...thanks - TyroneIrish - 2:17am 1/13/25
        • Not true... [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 11:26pm 1/12/25
          • You say "not true" and then you support my point. Typical Tyrone. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 10:08am 1/13/25
            • Perhaps this example will help you see the truth....think of the never ending accusations of DEI [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 11:41am 1/13/25
      • Did they eliminate legacy admissions? [NT] - iairishcheeks - 9:47pm 1/12/25
        • Deflection...the University of Notre Dame is 100% Committed to DEI...you have a problem with that? [NT] - TyroneIrish - 10:16pm 1/12/25
          • Legacy admissions are the opposite of DEI. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 12:42am 1/13/25
            • Notre Dame, and many other Universities are 'Walking and Chewing Gum at the Same Time'...it's a [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 2:00am 1/13/25
              • So they're not actually committed to DEI, got it. - iairishcheeks - 11:04am 1/13/25
                • The CSC's, ND Admin and Board can't be any clearer in their commitment to DEI...not sure why you - TyroneIrish - 11:49am 1/13/25
                  • You're not a serious person. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 11:57am 1/13/25
                    • Your response is devoid of substance...and understandably so...there are numerous articles you can - TyroneIrish - 12:51pm 1/13/25
                      • You can't "balance" moving privileged people to the head of the line, you don't understand DEI. - iairishcheeks - 1:02pm 1/13/25
                        • Once again...no substance...and a predictably weak response. Here, with only a little effort [LINK] [IMAGE] - TyroneIrish - 10:52pm 1/13/25
                          • I'm sure marginalized communities will understand that the virtue signalling is all bullshit. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 12:08pm 1/14/25
                            • If you call Commitment and Positive Action "Virtue Signaling"...so be it. WAY BETTER than sitting on - TyroneIrish - 7:44pm 1/14/25
    • Jesus is all about DEI. We look forward to your next 75 posts clinging to the past. [NT] [IMAGE] - conorlarkin - 7:34pm 1/12/25
      • DEI must include basic competence. Standards apply. - Hensou - 7:33am 1/13/25
        • Blaming the fire damage on DEI (vs climate change) is your absurd starting point. - conorlarkin - 7:46am 1/13/25
          • That's a lie. I did no such thing. Merely pointed out that competency matters in crisis situations [NT] - Hensou - 8:20am 1/13/25
      • Yes, Jesus was all about skin color, not content of character. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 10:52pm 1/12/25
        • Your ilk presumes white males are qualified. You presume everyone else isn’t. [NT] - conorlarkin - 11:10pm 1/12/25
          • On the contrary. You do. Or, you wouldn't support DEI. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 10:05am 1/13/25
            • Once again, your Alma Mater is 100% Committed to DEI...always has been...always will be.. - TyroneIrish - 7:55pm 1/14/25
          • That is utter nonsense. No one is buying this type of trolling. [NT] - Hensou - 7:34am 1/13/25
      • Have you discussed this with your posse? [NT] - Frankx - 9:28pm 1/12/25
      • What does he say about killing viable babies? [NT] - Cole - 9:28pm 1/12/25
      • If Jesus was all about DEI, how come the last supper was filled with whities? If that happened - TampaIrish - 8:30pm 1/12/25
        • There were no whites at the Last Supper. They were all Middle Easterners and Jews. [NT] - Shadow_of_the_Dome - 9:12pm 1/12/25
          • All classified as Caucasian. [NT] - Hensou - 7:36am 1/13/25
          • Well, they weren’t brothers and that is what’s most important to Conor. [NT] - TampaIrish - 9:57pm 1/12/25
    • The statement is from 2019. Gavin knew. [NT] - Hensou - 7:20pm 1/12/25
    • She should not be the chief after that comment. - PaND - 7:09pm 1/12/25
      • Insecure and incompetent white males are terrified of DEI. If the shoe fits …. [NT] - conorlarkin - 8:01pm 1/12/25
        • You are just trolling, right? You don't really support intentionally sacrificing human lives for DEI [NT] - NedoftheHill - 10:55pm 1/12/25
          • Of course he is and it’s good to see others that see it. [NT] - TampaIrish - 7:48am 1/13/25
        • You would know. - PaND - 8:11pm 1/12/25
          • He does know...and he's including you... - TyroneIrish - 9:16pm 1/12/25
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