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Oh absolutely. Expected it. I refer you back to my earlier post & "provide" pertinent quote but you

Author: BaronVonZemo (59922 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)
Posted at 8:57 pm on Feb 6, 2025
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are under no obligation to read it as we have now covered about the term "provide".

"Trump's Secretary of State Marco Rubio - head of the State Dept (under which USAID resides)- approved by congress has placed himself as director of USAID. He will re allocate the money into the tax payer account by not spending it until congress can vote to defund them completely in a month. In the meantime, Rubio has promised to continue legitimately useful funding in the meantime (such as legit medical aid). Should you somehow flip a few R's, it won't matter - congress can vote to fund the money, but the head of USAID can allocate at his discretion as has always been the case - including back to the taxpayers.

By the time you work your way through the courts, congress will have already decided the issue and the case will be dropped by the courts. If you make that far since you will be arguing to a court that the POTUS does not have the right via his State Dept head approved by congress who has overall responsibility of USAID to prevent the American people from having their money wasted.

Boom."


Link: https://forum.uhnd.com/forum/index.php?action=display&forumid=2&msgid=233462

Replies to: "Oh absolutely. Expected it. I refer you back to my earlier post & "provide" pertinent quote but you"

  • Catholic Relief Services imploding. [LINK] - Chris94 - 3:36pm 2/6/25 (49) [View All]
    • It’s sad that the Democrats were so unscrupulous with spending and now CRS is collateral damage [NT] - LanceManion - 7:47pm 2/6/25
      • Read the audience. [NT] [LINK] - conorlarkin - 9:04pm 2/6/25
    • Nothing prevents you from upping your contribution to CRS. [NT] - Hensou - 5:16pm 2/6/25
      • He could double it, & it would still be the same. I'm sure he's really concerned about CRS. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 8:56pm 2/6/25
      • Indeed. But also, Rubio has promised that worthwhile functions will be preserved either in USAID or - BaronVonZemo - 5:52pm 2/6/25
        • Are you aware that Congress decides how taxpayers’ money is allocated? - conorlarkin - 6:41pm 2/6/25
          • So Congress decided each USAID project? Approved every one of them??? - NedoftheHill - 8:10pm 2/6/25
            • Congress provides appropriations to federal agencies and projects as part of the fiscal budget. - conorlarkin - 8:18pm 2/6/25
              • The POTUS isn't doing this,the Dept head chosen by POTUS & approved by congress to oversee does - BaronVonZemo - 8:37pm 2/6/25
                • See you in Court. [NT] [LINK] - conorlarkin - 8:42pm 2/6/25
                  • Oh absolutely. Expected it. I refer you back to my earlier post & "provide" pertinent quote but you [LINK] - BaronVonZemo - 8:57pm 2/6/25
                    • You’re doing well so far. [NT] [LINK] - conorlarkin - 9:12pm 2/6/25
                      • Judge shopping on a different topic?! Either party can find an intially friendly judge - that's why - BaronVonZemo - 9:39pm 2/6/25
                        • Unlike Justices Alito and Thomas, 95% of the judiciary aren’t bought, and call balls ‘n strikes. [NT] - conorlarkin - 9:46pm 2/6/25
                          • Ummm ya., sure. Then you're truly screwed, right? May as well save yourself the trouble. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 9:49pm 2/6/25
                • Ned, the smell from the light bulb coming on over conors head isn't ozone. It is fear. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 8:38pm 2/6/25
          • Too often Congress has ceded the specifics of its legislation to the executive branch. [LINK] - Curly1918 - 7:22pm 2/6/25
          • Not that simple and you know it. [NT] [LINK] - Hensou - 7:18pm 2/6/25
          • Did Congress vote to cancel college loan debt? [LINK] - iairishcheeks - 7:10pm 2/6/25
          • Did congress decide to fund LGBTQ operas or Trump's Impeachment? Show me the vote. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 6:44pm 2/6/25
            • The USAID funding was part of 2024 budget, which is funded through mid March. - conorlarkin - 7:15pm 2/6/25
              • Please provide a link to the 2024 budget passed by Congress. - NedoftheHill - 8:11pm 2/6/25
                • Here. [NT] [LINK] - conorlarkin - 8:29pm 2/6/25
                  • No specific allocation requirements mentioned for USAID - burden of proof is squarely on you now. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 8:32pm 2/6/25
                    • Here. [NT] [LINK] - conorlarkin - 8:36pm 2/6/25
                      • Not specific allocations &wording says congress "delivers, "provides',& "invests" money. It doesn't - BaronVonZemo - 8:50pm 2/6/25
              • You specifically claimed congress decides "allocation". Now you say they just generally fund it. So - BaronVonZemo - 7:43pm 2/6/25
                • Can Trump defund congressional approved Infrastructure projects in blue states? - conorlarkin - 7:53pm 2/6/25
                  • Whole different topic. Are we done here? You seem to have conceded. Btw.... - BaronVonZemo - 7:59pm 2/6/25
                    • I am still waiting for you to answer simple questions about presidential powers. - conorlarkin - 8:05pm 2/6/25
                      • 1)Congress funds2) Dept det's allocations3)POTUS & congress choose Dept heads4) Dept heads choose - BaronVonZemo - 8:27pm 2/6/25
                  • "Can a president refuse to spend funds approved by Congress?"...the attached article sheds [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 7:56pm 2/6/25
                    • No. [NT] - Frank L - 9:24pm 2/6/25
              • it was formed by executive action. he can do what he wants [NT] - WestCoastIrishFan - 7:36pm 2/6/25
                • This cuts to the chase. USAID was formed by EO by JFK, and therefore can be eliminated by EO as well - BaronVonZemo - 9:43pm 2/6/25
        • He was a big Clinton Foundation guy, too. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 6:31pm 2/6/25
          • Tellingly, if you look at a Ven Diagram of people sitting on boards of USAID,WHO, WEF,.... - BaronVonZemo - 6:48pm 2/6/25
    • Meanwhile, how was the Rally for Bureaucracy? [NT] - Cole - 5:14pm 2/6/25
      • Get real, Cole...Bureaucracies exist in every single business, not just government...they are [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 5:43pm 2/6/25
        • People in my business don't spend money that the CEO prohibits them from spending. Accountability. - NedoftheHill - 7:18pm 2/6/25
          • Here's more info on the Firing of Federal Employees... [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 8:28pm 2/6/25
          • Why can't you at least use your browser to ask the question of how federal employees are managed? [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 8:09pm 2/6/25
    • Great, it won’t be able to assist illegals anymore. [NT] - Cole - 5:03pm 2/6/25
    • Mere collateral damage to making America great again. Maybe it would be better to just make America - Frank L - 4:19pm 2/6/25
      • I always thought Americans were a compassionate people, not emboldened by cruelty. [NT] - conorlarkin - 4:59pm 2/6/25
    • You should appreciate the separation of church and state. [NT] - WestCoastIrishFan - 3:38pm 2/6/25
      • I'm sure my Bishop will soon send a mass email ripe w/ outrage & disdain. Can't wait. [NT] - ELP - 6:49pm 2/6/25
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