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And oversight was blocked on the money. What we know….

Author: BaronVonZemo (61104 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)
Posted at 12:51 pm on Feb 20, 2025
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Putin is a tryrant

Ukraine was a very corrupt country at least until the war

Zelensky is very unpopular among his own people right now (and there have been rumors of his people buying extravagant properties which might be feeding in to this)
US intel suggests Z’s approval rating by his own people is incredibly bad.

Zelensky has shut down elections during the war and is 6 1/2 yrs in to his 5 yr term

US gave Ukraine 350 billion dollars and Zelensky cannot account for half of it

Zelensky wants to continue the war, and reached out to EU for funding when Trump began demanding peace

The war is unwinnable for Ukraine

Zelensky pandered to US cameras in his famous green camo shirt when attending formal events in Washington

Zelensky made a campaign statement for Biden

Putin has said he will discuss cease fire
US wants to negotiate peace but relations w Russia are in dumper and the air needs to be cleared for negotiations to occur

Zelensky being brave, Zelensky being corrupt, Putin being a tyrant are all not mutually exclusive possibilities.

So…..cutting through it all

So who is the one pushing for peace in an unwinnable war for our side?
That would be Trump.

Who is the one who wants a free election?
Again, that would be Trump.

Who is staying beyond his term and eschewing an election? (admittedly there is war and there would need to be authenticity).
That would be Zelensky

Who invaded?
That would be Putin

Who facilitated the invasion?
That would be BidenHandlers.


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Replies to: "And oversight was blocked on the money. What we know…."

  • Israel receives far and away more aid from the US than the Ukraine. Why does MAGA approve of one - Quest4twelve - 10:49am 2/20/25 (46) [View All]
    • Which one do you think should receive proportionately more aid, and why? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 2:55pm 2/20/25
    • Maybe because their form of warfare is as genocidal as Putin's? - Curly1918 - 2:17pm 2/20/25
      • Elon was right about what the response should have been. [LINK] - iairishcheeks - 2:23pm 2/20/25
        • That is amazingly naive of him. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 2:49pm 2/20/25
          • Jesus said to turn the other cheek. - iairishcheeks - 3:45pm 2/20/25
    • I don't understand why both parties capitulate to Israel. - iairishcheeks - 11:39am 2/20/25
      • Lots of Democrats want to kill Jews. From the river to the sea, and all that. - NedoftheHill - 2:51pm 2/20/25
    • Ok, Adolph. Whatever you say. [NT] - LanceManion - 11:28am 2/20/25
      • Kanye, boomer… [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 1:37pm 2/20/25
    • If Putin told Trump to cut off that aid, he would. [NT] - Chris94 - 10:57am 2/20/25
      • So why doesn't he do that? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 10:58am 2/20/25
        • Has Putin told him to do so? [NT] - Frank L - 11:02am 2/20/25
          • Apparently not if Chris is right...which is why I asked why Putin hasn't done that. - NedoftheHill - 11:06am 2/20/25
            • Have you been paying any attention at all? - Chris94 - 11:38am 2/20/25
              • . [NT] - NedoftheHill - 6:21pm 2/20/25
              • You really need to step out of your information bubble. - BaronVonZemo - 12:32pm 2/20/25
                • So, according to Ned… - Domer From Hell - 1:38pm 2/20/25
                  • I didn't say that.....or, if I did, I didn't mean it. ;-) - NedoftheHill - 2:29pm 2/20/25
                    • Ned, are you gunning for the "Baghdad Bob of the Week" award?...delving into "Alternative Facts"?... [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 2:52pm 2/20/25
                      • Says the person with the least amount of credibility on this board. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 2:55pm 2/20/25
                        • I second that. Lying is the second worst of the proclivities he is known for,but - ColeyO - 7:11pm 2/20/25
                        • Pick a topic of your choice...let's see who has the Credibility...btw, I'm still waiting for your - TyroneIrish - 3:27pm 2/20/25
                          • I'm still waiting for your reply after I replied. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 5:48pm 2/21/25
                  • How long does that ban on elections go on, esp when he is so unpopular? Just keep sending $ eh? - BaronVonZemo - 2:15pm 2/20/25
                    • He's not unpopular. That is Russian disinformation, which Trump was too stupid to see. [LINK] - Chris94 - 2:28pm 2/20/25
                • Perhaps you missed it. He has been tweeting like a madman - 8 lies in one post yesterday. - Chris94 - 1:33pm 2/20/25
                  • By “lies”, you mean different than you believe/have been told? [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 2:08pm 2/20/25
                    • Here are the 8 lies. All demonstrably false, no ambiguity. - Chris94 - 2:17pm 2/20/25
                      • How did Biden try to get peace, besides offering Zelensky a ride out of town before the invasion? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 2:47pm 2/20/25
                        • You might not agree with his methods. Or whatever. - Chris94 - 4:42pm 2/20/25
                • Yeah. I've seen you can't trust mefia snippets of his comments out of context. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 12:39pm 2/20/25
              • I don't listen to Trump. I just watch what he does. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 11:48am 2/20/25
                • Come on man. You know that makes zero sense [NT] - Domer From Hell - 12:27pm 2/20/25
                  • Why? A lot of what he says is not how things end up. - NedoftheHill - 12:38pm 2/20/25
                    • It’s good to know that you’re against Russian appeasement. Too bad some of your cohorts don’t … - Domer From Hell - 1:01pm 2/20/25
            • Thought you were asking why Trump hadn’t done it. Putie likely wants to take it one appeasement step - Frank L - 11:23am 2/20/25
              • Does "Putie" still have the pee-pee tape? Assume you have secret knowledge about this. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 11:49am 2/20/25
                • Per a GOP-led Senate Intel Committee report, Trump and Putin colluded to get DJT elected in 2016, - TyroneIrish - 1:16pm 2/20/25
                  • I'm not concerned about anything you post because anything you post is inherently untrustworthy. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 2:32pm 2/20/25
                    • Knew you couldn’t answer cause he’s correct. Putin has a clear hold over him. [NT] - Frank L - 3:09pm 2/20/25
                      • A majority of Americans disagree with you. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 3:27pm 2/20/25
                        • Post the poll. [NT] - Frank L - 3:30pm 2/20/25
    • What amounts of aid was given to each in recent years? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 10:55am 2/20/25
      • And oversight was blocked on the money. What we know…. - BaronVonZemo - 12:51pm 2/20/25
        • There are multiple issues here. - NedoftheHill - 2:44pm 2/20/25
        • Talking points directly from Mother Russia. - Quest4twelve - 1:58pm 2/20/25
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