I don't like it unless he's been charged with a crime.

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I don't like it unless he's been charged with a crime.

Author: jakers (13486 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:39 am on Mar 11, 2025

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I don't know enough about the Columbia protest's details. Some of these "protests" were dreadful and involved trespassing, destruction of property, harassment of Jewish students. It was incredibly frustrating to see the Universities paralyzed by their political confusion and refusing to take action.

But without an arrest and criminal charges, I don't support deportation of permanent residents.

Replies to: "I don't like it unless he's been charged with a crime."

Crickets from the Board’s First Amendment warriors … [NT] [LINK] - conorlarkin - 7:46pm 3/10/25 (43) [View All]
- I don't like it unless he's been charged with a crime. - jakers - 9:39am 3/11/25
  - There's no allegation that he was breaking the law [NT] [LINK] - Chris94 - 2:39pm 3/11/25
    - I bet an aggressive prosecutor could bring some."Trumped" up charges... - iairishcheeks - 5:42pm 3/11/25
  - I'd like more details on what exactly this person said, did and what ties he may have to Hamas. [LINK] - iairishcheeks - 10:04am 3/11/25
    - Exactly. Did he do anything illegal? Does he have legitimate ties to Hamas. - jakers - 10:07am 3/11/25
      - Yep, due process is key. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 12:45pm 3/11/25
        Walkin it back from yesterday, now that jakers agrees with us? - conorlarkin - 8:28pm 3/11/25
        Green card holder =/= citizen. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 9:52pm 3/11/25
- Seems he broke U.S. code, though - MarkHarman - 8:45am 3/11/25
  - worked with many green card recipients. the entire program needs to be reevaluated. [NT] - WestCoastIrishFan - 9:28am 3/11/25
- i’m cool with free speech, he’s doing nothing to help future green card applicants. always good to - WestCoastIrishFan - 7:08am 3/11/25
- I do not agree with what he has said, but I will defend to the death his right to say it - Chris94 - 11:21pm 3/10/25
- Hard to have a ton of empathy for a person on a student visa that supports terrorists. [LINK] - iairishcheeks - 9:04pm 3/10/25
  - He’s a permanent resident. And free speech can still be deplorable. [NT] [LINK] - conorlarkin - 9:11pm 3/10/25
    - I support deporting neo-nazis here on visas. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 9:21pm 3/10/25
      - The detained subject has a green card. Explain the legal basis for detaining him. [LINK] - conorlarkin - 9:24pm 3/10/25
        Per the Axios article... - iairishcheeks - 9:44pm 3/10/25
        Let see what the courts say. [NT] [LINK] - conorlarkin - 9:54pm 3/10/25
        Lesson: get your citizenship before calling for intifada. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 10:47pm 3/10/25
        Exactly. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 1:36pm 3/11/25
        
        Conflicts with 1A my man. [NT] - Frank L - 9:51pm 3/10/25
        If he were a citizen, of course. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 1:13pm 3/11/25
        Not just limited to citizens. [NT] - Frank L - 4:11pm 3/11/25
        The event he led caused Columbia to tell its students it wasn't safe to come to classes. - NedoftheHill - 6:23pm 3/11/25
        This has nothing to do with free speech. - PaND - 6:41pm 3/11/25
        
        They have the same core free speech protections while in the nation. - Frank L - 6:25pm 3/11/25
        
        If he were calling for killing blacks, you'd silence him. But, he's just calling for killing Jews. - NedoftheHill - 9:38pm 3/10/25
        However, your crowd would be decrying the lack of free speech if he were some right wing - Frank L - 9:48pm 3/10/25
        I won't get upset at deporting non-citizen nazis. Would you? - NedoftheHill - 1:36pm 3/11/25
        Upset no. Much controversial free speech comes from completely despicable people. [NT] - Frank L - 4:28pm 3/11/25
        
        You should read up about free speech. - conorlarkin - 9:45pm 3/10/25
        Are you saying the same standard applies to green card holders as citizens? - NedoftheHill - 1:33pm 3/11/25
        Yes. Same free speech protections as torch bearers in Charlottesville. [NT] - conorlarkin - 7:53pm 3/11/25
        
        He can’t have gone to law school. [NT] - Frank L - 9:49pm 3/10/25
        Real lawyers never disagree about the Constitution or the law? Is that your position? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 1:44pm 3/11/25
        People here legally such as a green card holder have First Amendment rights. - Frank L - 5:37pm 3/11/25
  - An "Appearance" of support? [NT] - Hibakusha - 9:09pm 3/10/25
- Whatabout whatabout whatabout whatabout whatabout whatabout…. [NT] - Chris94 - 8:19pm 3/10/25
  - Whatabout Hitler? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 9:39pm 3/10/25
- Your incessant links to NYT and WaPo are ridiculous and meaningless. - Hensou - 7:59pm 3/10/25
  - Should the U.S. imprison people for exercising constitutionally protected free speech? [NT] - ND521 - 8:04pm 3/10/25
    - Not what happening here, we're deporting non-citizens deemed a threat [NT] - iairishcheeks - 9:46pm 3/10/25
      - Inaccurate, no surprise. [NT] - ND521 - 11:08pm 3/10/25