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First of all, I am not MAGA, as I told Chris before, just because I disagree with you, doesn't mean that you can put me into a box. You've done this multiple times before in responses to me. Some people just disagree, and that's ok Jim.

Secondly, how many civil servants have you worked with in your time? For me it's been hundreds, and although the sample size is small and mostly local to me, even around here it is commonly known that in order to get rid of someone, you simply make it someone else's problem, rather than go through the rather lengthy process required to fire the problem worker. Union publications routinely rank the "best" organizations on the bases to work for, the highest are the ones that will not do the process, and the worst are the ones who will do what is required in order to fire people.

Lastly, if you really want some stories, I can give you some. Or you can take me at my word, which I know people don't like doing nowadays. I've spent nearly 20 years working in the DOD. You could fire practically half the civil servants and nothing would happen. My comment was to Frank, not you, in regards to civil service workers. I know many excellent civil service workers as well, many of which are actually in my family or close friends. Even they will tell you that there are a lot of unproductive and unneeded ones. I support the idea of trimming the fat from the government, there is plenty, but I do disagree with the way it seems DOGE is going about it.