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Waving Ukraine flag while sending US $ to Ukraine made you a traitor. The best part of this piece:

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 11:51 am on Mar 30, 2025
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In the Ukrainians’ view, the Americans weren’t willing to do what was necessary to help them prevail.

In the Americans’ view, the Ukrainians weren’t willing to do what was necessary to help themselves prevail.

Mr. Zelensky often said, in response to the draft question, that his country was fighting for its future, that 18- to 25-year-olds were the fathers of that future.

To one American official, though, it’s “not an existential war if they won’t make their people fight.”

Its very clear that ukraine just used US in this war. But Ukrainians were unhappy with Americans from the very beginning of this war, even we helped them so much. This article confirmed that. No wonders 2 presidents during this war told Ukrainian president, to show some gratitude. As I said before Ukrainian political class haven't got rid of their past socialism mindset - always expect others to give more to you. I understand this mindset so well.


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Replies to: "Waving Ukraine flag while sending US $ to Ukraine made you a traitor. The best part of this piece:"

  • This was the United States that made me a proud American. [LINK] - conorlarkin - 7:31am 3/30/25 (40) [View All]
    • Waving Ukraine flag while sending US $ to Ukraine made you a traitor. The best part of this piece: - Eli - 11:51am 3/30/25
      • You calling anyone a traitor is remarkable. [NT] - Chris94 - 1:20pm 3/30/25
        • I called you a warmonger, not a traitor. It's remarkable antiTrump converted you into a warmonger. [NT] - Eli - 1:55pm 3/30/25
          • You do realize that you fellate a “warmonger” at every opportunity, yes? [NT] - Domer From Hell - 2:03pm 3/30/25
      • Thanks Putin! Any more Russian propaganda you wish to post. [NT] - jimbasil - 12:40pm 3/30/25
      • A Putin sycophant speaks for the Ukrainian people. Makes sense [NT] - Domer From Hell - 11:55am 3/30/25
        • "In the Ukrainians’ view, the Americans weren’t willing to do...to help them prevail". Dumbass. [NT] - Eli - 12:04pm 3/30/25
          • Sorry, you’re the most unbelievable mother fucker on this board. I’m sure your “info” … - Domer From Hell - 12:11pm 3/30/25
            • I quoted the best part of this article. Despite a lot sugar coating it told some truth. - Eli - 12:25pm 3/30/25
              • And it’s typical that you cherry pick what’s true and what’s not true. Par for the coarse [NT] - Domer From Hell - 12:33pm 3/30/25
              • I’d like to read the full article. Link it, bitch [NT] - Domer From Hell - 12:27pm 3/30/25
                • Conor linked it, dumbass. Don't just fathfully read my posts. Please give others' posts respect too. [NT] - Eli - 12:44pm 3/30/25
                  • Pay wall. I don’t subscribe to the NYT. It’s interesting that you do… - Domer From Hell - 12:51pm 3/30/25
                    • I care about its science report which is the best among MSM. I don't give a shit to its political - Eli - 2:05pm 3/30/25
                      • Yet you read it. Is there something you’re not telling us?… - Domer From Hell - 2:30pm 3/30/25
    • After reading that, it's obvious to me continuing this war is pointless - MarkHarman - 11:37am 3/30/25
      • Caving to Putin's demands is not how the United States should seek to end the war. [LINK] - conorlarkin - 4:19pm 3/30/25
      • "pointless"? You're not fighting in it. "pointless"? It's not your country (tough hard to know if - jimbasil - 12:37pm 3/30/25
      • If Trump had any balls, he’d continue to aid Ukraine and negotiate with Russia… - Domer From Hell - 11:45am 3/30/25
        • That would be what someone not a Russian asset would do. [NT] - Frank L - 11:53am 3/30/25
          • Glad you can finally admit that Trump is not a Russian asset. Progress! [NT] - NedoftheHill - 8:56pm 3/30/25
            • Except he’s not doing it to pressure Russia but rather to get concessions from Ukraine. - Frank L - 9:07pm 3/30/25
              • Glad you finally understand the concept of negotiation. We've made some great progress today. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 10:32pm 3/30/25
                • Not when the concessions will all be one way with no security guarantees. His problem is that his - Frank L - 7:33am 3/31/25
        • Isn't he doing that now? I'd read that he was continuing aid after stopping only briefly. - NedoftheHill - 11:50am 3/30/25
          • You’re right. My bad [NT] [LINK] - Domer From Hell - 11:53am 3/30/25
    • Lawfare, Hunter Biden, Hillary Clinton, Deep State, Mexican gangs, NATO, Fauci. - jimbasil - 11:10am 3/30/25
      • Yep. Zelensky the Jew is such a Nazi [NT] - Domer From Hell - 11:12am 3/30/25
        • Yeah. Jim pretty much nailed it except for that part. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 11:20am 3/30/25
          • He was pointing out the idiocy of your ilk. No offense intended [NT] - Domer From Hell - 1:15pm 3/30/25
            • No worries, mate. You are incapable of offending me. But you called it on that one. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 10:33pm 3/30/25
          • Are you all in on taking Greenland, Canada and Panama? [NT] - jimbasil - 1:11pm 3/30/25
            • Not by force. But by negotiation?...why would you oppose that? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 10:34pm 3/30/25
              • Trump’s fixation on that shit is bizarre. You not admitting that is disingenuous and you know it. [NT] - Domer From Hell - 12:22am 3/31/25
    • This is correct. When the US voted with Russia, China, Iran, and North Korea at the UN is proof… - Domer From Hell - 10:56am 3/30/25
    • They fought the Russians to a standstill. No one expected that - except the Ukrainians. - Chris94 - 9:31am 3/30/25
      • Do you really think both of those things will happen? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 11:21am 3/30/25
      • Oh we have our reasons according to Eli. [NT] - Domer From Hell - 10:57am 3/30/25
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