Just a normal exercise of insiders (US Intelligence Community) making sure the other guys (Ukrainian Generals) get blamed for the failure?
Anyone concerned about how deep our involvement was?
Link: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/03/29/world/europe/us-ukraine-military-war-wiesbaden.html?smid=nytcore-android-share
Replies to: "Any thoughts on "The secret history of the war in Ukraine" in the NYT?"
- Any thoughts on "The secret history of the war in Ukraine" in the NYT? [LINK]
- Iggle - 7:50pm 3/31/25
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- The War was all aboy [NT]
- lmcdonald - 11:49am 4/1/25
- Re: The War was all about NATO expansion which the Russian were promised wouldn't happen [NT]
- lmcdonald - 11:50am 4/1/25
- Utter Bullshit. There were no plans for Ukraine to join NATO. Russian propaganda spouter. [NT] - Frank L - 12:02pm 4/1/25
- Re: The War was all about NATO expansion which the Russian were promised wouldn't happen [NT]
- lmcdonald - 11:50am 4/1/25
- Fantastic reporting. And I didn’t read it as blaming the Ukrainians - Chris94 - 12:01am 4/1/25
- Conor posted this at 7:31 ET this morning...got 8 downvotes...let's see how you do ;-) [NT]
- TyroneIrish - 9:21pm 3/31/25
- Better so far - Iggle - 9:50pm 3/31/25
- You are mistaken. That was yesterday. - Iggle - 10:06pm 3/31/25
- Sorry about that...but you don't seem to have read much of the article...and certainly not the - TyroneIrish - 11:51pm 3/31/25
- You are mistaken. That was yesterday. - Iggle - 10:06pm 3/31/25
- Better so far - Iggle - 9:50pm 3/31/25
- 1. It's neither secret nor untold story. We all knew its a proxy war. US ran the show. We also knew - Eli - 8:36pm 3/31/25
- The Ukrainians whipped your butts real good [NT] - Chris94 - 12:02am 4/1/25
- While I believe Putin is a murderous savage, he isn’t stupid… - Domer From Hell - 10:22pm 3/31/25
- He may figure it was better than getting hung from a lamppost by piano wire. - Iggle - 10:31pm 3/31/25
- It’s called OPSEC…in other words clandestine operations are on a need to know basis… - Domer From Hell - 10:40pm 3/31/25
- Well, some people just spewed all their OPSEC to NYT reporters. - Iggle - 6:53am 4/1/25
- Allegedly. It could also be that the reporter read a Tom Clancy novel [NT] - Domer From Hell - 10:36am 4/1/25
- Well, some people just spewed all their OPSEC to NYT reporters. - Iggle - 6:53am 4/1/25
- Clarity and Honesty? Here you go, Trump Voter. [NT] [LINK] - conorlarkin - 10:38pm 3/31/25
- It’s called OPSEC…in other words clandestine operations are on a need to know basis… - Domer From Hell - 10:40pm 3/31/25
- He may figure it was better than getting hung from a lamppost by piano wire. - Iggle - 10:31pm 3/31/25
- We didn’t do enough. Agree on the blame game though. [NT] - Frank L - 7:57pm 3/31/25
- The War was all aboy [NT]
- lmcdonald - 11:49am 4/1/25