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1. It's neither secret nor untold story. We all knew its a proxy war. US ran the show. We also knew

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 8:36 pm on Mar 31, 2025
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How dangerous it was/is/will be so close to a nuclear war as the red lines were broken again and again. We knew US military personnel in Ukraine. NYT admitted all of what we have been saying. They just quoted insiders evaluation of nuclear situation, i.e. from 5-10% to 50%, to make it sound more accurate and authentic. I guess it is secret only to those who read propaganda.

If I have time, I will give 2 and 3.


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Replies to: "1. It's neither secret nor untold story. We all knew its a proxy war. US ran the show. We also knew"

  • Any thoughts on "The secret history of the war in Ukraine" in the NYT? [LINK] - Iggle - 7:50pm 3/31/25 (17) [View All]
    • The War was all aboy [NT] - lmcdonald - 11:49am 4/1/25
      • Re: The War was all about NATO expansion which the Russian were promised wouldn't happen [NT] - lmcdonald - 11:50am 4/1/25
        • Utter Bullshit. There were no plans for Ukraine to join NATO. Russian propaganda spouter. [NT] - Frank L - 12:02pm 4/1/25
    • Fantastic reporting. And I didn’t read it as blaming the Ukrainians - Chris94 - 12:01am 4/1/25
    • Conor posted this at 7:31 ET this morning...got 8 downvotes...let's see how you do ;-) [NT] - TyroneIrish - 9:21pm 3/31/25
      • Better so far - Iggle - 9:50pm 3/31/25
        • You are mistaken. That was yesterday. - Iggle - 10:06pm 3/31/25
          • Sorry about that...but you don't seem to have read much of the article...and certainly not the - TyroneIrish - 11:51pm 3/31/25
    • 1. It's neither secret nor untold story. We all knew its a proxy war. US ran the show. We also knew - Eli - 8:36pm 3/31/25
      • The Ukrainians whipped your butts real good [NT] - Chris94 - 12:02am 4/1/25
      • While I believe Putin is a murderous savage, he isn’t stupid… - Domer From Hell - 10:22pm 3/31/25
        • He may figure it was better than getting hung from a lamppost by piano wire. - Iggle - 10:31pm 3/31/25
          • It’s called OPSEC…in other words clandestine operations are on a need to know basis… - Domer From Hell - 10:40pm 3/31/25
            • Well, some people just spewed all their OPSEC to NYT reporters. - Iggle - 6:53am 4/1/25
              • Allegedly. It could also be that the reporter read a Tom Clancy novel [NT] - Domer From Hell - 10:36am 4/1/25
          • Clarity and Honesty? Here you go, Trump Voter. [NT] [LINK] - conorlarkin - 10:38pm 3/31/25
    • We didn’t do enough. Agree on the blame game though. [NT] - Frank L - 7:57pm 3/31/25
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