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Fantastic reporting. And I didn’t read it as blaming the Ukrainians

Author: Chris94 (36751 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 12:01 am on Apr 1, 2025
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It was more interesting in showing the tension in the US between helping them and avoiding escalation, which has always been the #1 US interest.

And it should end any doubt about just how superior the US military is compared to the hapless Russians. Which Putin surely knows.

Putin failed because the US helped the Ukrainians. He will not stop the attack if he believes that help is going to end.

The path only way to get peace is to make Putin understand that he can’t win.


Replies to: "Fantastic reporting. And I didn’t read it as blaming the Ukrainians"

  • Any thoughts on "The secret history of the war in Ukraine" in the NYT? [LINK] - Iggle - 7:50pm 3/31/25 (17) [View All]
    • The War was all aboy [NT] - lmcdonald - 11:49am 4/1/25
      • Re: The War was all about NATO expansion which the Russian were promised wouldn't happen [NT] - lmcdonald - 11:50am 4/1/25
        • Utter Bullshit. There were no plans for Ukraine to join NATO. Russian propaganda spouter. [NT] - Frank L - 12:02pm 4/1/25
    • Fantastic reporting. And I didn’t read it as blaming the Ukrainians - Chris94 - 12:01am 4/1/25
    • Conor posted this at 7:31 ET this morning...got 8 downvotes...let's see how you do ;-) [NT] - TyroneIrish - 9:21pm 3/31/25
      • Better so far - Iggle - 9:50pm 3/31/25
        • You are mistaken. That was yesterday. - Iggle - 10:06pm 3/31/25
          • Sorry about that...but you don't seem to have read much of the article...and certainly not the - TyroneIrish - 11:51pm 3/31/25
    • 1. It's neither secret nor untold story. We all knew its a proxy war. US ran the show. We also knew - Eli - 8:36pm 3/31/25
      • The Ukrainians whipped your butts real good [NT] - Chris94 - 12:02am 4/1/25
      • While I believe Putin is a murderous savage, he isn’t stupid… - Domer From Hell - 10:22pm 3/31/25
        • He may figure it was better than getting hung from a lamppost by piano wire. - Iggle - 10:31pm 3/31/25
          • It’s called OPSEC…in other words clandestine operations are on a need to know basis… - Domer From Hell - 10:40pm 3/31/25
            • Well, some people just spewed all their OPSEC to NYT reporters. - Iggle - 6:53am 4/1/25
              • Allegedly. It could also be that the reporter read a Tom Clancy novel [NT] - Domer From Hell - 10:36am 4/1/25
          • Clarity and Honesty? Here you go, Trump Voter. [NT] [LINK] - conorlarkin - 10:38pm 3/31/25
    • We didn’t do enough. Agree on the blame game though. [NT] - Frank L - 7:57pm 3/31/25
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