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Utter Bullshit. There were no plans for Ukraine to join NATO. Russian propaganda spouter.
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Frank L
(63492 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)
Posted at 12:02 pm on Apr 1, 2025
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Replies to: "Utter Bullshit. There were no plans for Ukraine to join NATO. Russian propaganda spouter."
Any thoughts on "The secret history of the war in Ukraine" in the NYT?
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Iggle
- 7:50pm 3/31/25
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The War was all aboy
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lmcdonald
- 11:49am 4/1/25
Re: The War was all about NATO expansion which the Russian were promised wouldn't happen
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lmcdonald
- 11:50am 4/1/25
Utter Bullshit. There were no plans for Ukraine to join NATO. Russian propaganda spouter.
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Frank L
- 12:02pm 4/1/25
Fantastic reporting. And I didn’t read it as blaming the Ukrainians
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Chris94
- 12:01am 4/1/25
Conor posted this at 7:31 ET this morning...got 8 downvotes...let's see how you do ;-)
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TyroneIrish
- 9:21pm 3/31/25
Better so far
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Iggle
- 9:50pm 3/31/25
You are mistaken. That was yesterday.
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Iggle
- 10:06pm 3/31/25
Sorry about that...but you don't seem to have read much of the article...and certainly not the
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TyroneIrish
- 11:51pm 3/31/25
1. It's neither secret nor untold story. We all knew its a proxy war. US ran the show. We also knew
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Eli
- 8:36pm 3/31/25
The Ukrainians whipped your butts real good
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Chris94
- 12:02am 4/1/25
While I believe Putin is a murderous savage, he isn’t stupid…
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Domer From Hell
- 10:22pm 3/31/25
He may figure it was better than getting hung from a lamppost by piano wire.
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Iggle
- 10:31pm 3/31/25
It’s called OPSEC…in other words clandestine operations are on a need to know basis…
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Domer From Hell
- 10:40pm 3/31/25
Well, some people just spewed all their OPSEC to NYT reporters.
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Iggle
- 6:53am 4/1/25
Allegedly. It could also be that the reporter read a Tom Clancy novel
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Domer From Hell
- 10:36am 4/1/25
Clarity and Honesty? Here you go, Trump Voter.
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conorlarkin
- 10:38pm 3/31/25
We didn’t do enough. Agree on the blame game though.
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Frank L
- 7:57pm 3/31/25