And you still don't get the point.

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And you still don't get the point.

Author: Iggle (12433 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 5:33 pm on Jan 2, 2014

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The point is not his educational non-achievement. His level of dumb-assedness is more an indictment of the NSA vetting process than of himself.

The point is that we do not hire people to work in these agencies to make their own decisions about what to keep secret and what to expose.

I think that he served a useful purpose. I might even go so far as to say that I am glad this got out. However, just because HE was "right" in this case doesn't mean that every disgruntled peon in the intelligence bureaucracy is going to be right in the future.

I fear that giving him a pardon will encourage every harebrained idiot to release stuff that they think shouldn't be secret...you know, just 'cause it's right, in their view. "Hey, you didn't prosecute Snowden, why are you prosecuting me for giving the Russians our launch codes? There shouldn't be secrets, man."

Capiche?

Replies to: "And you still don't get the point."

NYTimes on Snowden Jan. 1 [LINK] - jimbasil - 8:45am 1/2/14 (39) [View All]
- Here's a pretty decent counterargument. [LINK] - ND_in_ATL - 6:04pm 1/4/14
  - This article has not much cred - - jimbasil - 10:55am 1/6/14
    - Agree that part of the article is unfortunate - ND_in_ATL - 12:09pm 1/6/14
      - If by Manning - - jimbasil - 12:40pm 1/6/14
- The whole thing is deeply concerning. - iairishcheeks - 1:27am 1/3/14
  - How should he have gone about it? - ND_in_ATL - 5:16pm 1/4/14
    - Not sure, but I am quite certain it could have been done better. - iairishcheeks - 2:11am 1/5/14
- Snowden is a HERO. Will the next whistle-blower please stand up? [NT] - ZibbyFire - 7:55pm 1/2/14
- IMO, Snowden doesn't deserve amnesty. He sold out his own country to China and the Russians......... - NDinTN - 5:06pm 1/2/14
  - How is it you have this information about Snowden giving China and Russia NSA secrets? - jimbasil - 5:48pm 1/2/14
    - Don't you think Snowden had to pay a price to China and Russia for asylum in their countries? Both.. - NDinTN - 4:39pm 1/3/14
      - I think it's a lot less Robert Ludlum than you guys make it out to be. - jimbasil - 5:43pm 1/3/14
    - Facts really bother you, don't they? You have your mind made up there's no... - iairishcheeks - 1:33am 1/3/14
      - You'll help me out with the facts, I'm sure of it. [NT] - jimbasil - 1:56pm 1/3/14
- I have mixed feelings on this, but one thing I am sure of.... - BaronVonZemo - 1:10pm 1/2/14
  - I agree [NT] - ND_in_ATL - 5:15pm 1/4/14
  - I'd feel more sympathy for him if he hadn't fled the country. - Iggle - 3:22pm 1/2/14
    - If he didn't flee, he would have been given the Bradley Manning treatment - ND_in_ATL - 6:21pm 1/4/14
    - ! [NT] - jimbasil - 6:43pm 1/2/14
    - Ah, if he was a Graduate of an agreed to University it'd be okay with you. - jimbasil - 3:36pm 1/2/14
      - Now hold on Jim. Obama went to Harvard & private schools his whole life too....... - BaronVonZemo - 5:28pm 1/2/14
        Another who didn't get it. - jimbasil - 6:05pm 1/2/14
        Oh, I got it. I just noticed that your list was a bit...shall we say...one sided. Regarding the - BaronVonZemo - 6:14pm 1/2/14
        If he were a traitor he would have disclosed the secrets to another country - jimbasil - 6:23pm 1/2/14
      - Now hold on Jim. Obama went to Harvard & private schools his whole life too....... - BaronVonZemo - 5:26pm 1/2/14
      - Yes. In other words, I wouldn't support you doing it. - Iggle - 4:27pm 1/2/14
        Yeah, we can't take you at your word then... - jimbasil - 4:32pm 1/2/14
        You are such an incredible tard. - Iggle - 4:45pm 1/2/14
        You could have left the conversation at - jimbasil - 5:02pm 1/2/14
        And you still don't get the point. - Iggle - 5:33pm 1/2/14
        Really? You just wrote that and you believe that? - jimbasil - 5:56pm 1/2/14
        Iggle's point about deterrence of future leaks seems valid regardless of anyone's opinion of Snowden - BaronVonZemo - 6:24pm 1/2/14
        He's not talking about deterrence - jimbasil - 6:32pm 1/2/14
        Read the post , dumbass. - Iggle - 6:39pm 1/2/14
        You mean this one or the one where you misspelled capisce? - jimbasil - 6:44pm 1/2/14
        Either/or. Well, maybe both, in your case. And try to sound out the words. - Iggle - 7:18pm 1/2/14
        
        Delete [NT] - Iggle - 5:31pm 1/2/14
        
        Delete [NT] - Iggle - 5:31pm 1/2/14
  - Putin would give him temporary asylum just as a dig to the US and Obama - jimbasil - 1:24pm 1/2/14