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Not so simple...

Author: TyroneIrish (19769 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 5:13 pm on May 13, 2025
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For instance...'Killing' of other persons is termed 'Evil'...yet the RCC Catechism allows killing under "Just War" circumstances (Para 2309), when "Prudential Judgement" is applied, since the assumed innocent victims' lives and/or freedoms are threatened by an attacker. So, when it comes to the Abortion issue, we also have situations where an innocent victim (a woman) is either forced or coerced into a pregnancy that she never wanted...a pregnancy that will surely change her life in ways that can be harmful, physically, mentally and emotionally...perhaps even life threatening. Consequently, she too needs to apply "Prudential Judgement" in dealing with the results of this attack, and one option is terminating the development of a Potential life...since the Personhood of the developing fetus is debated.

I'll note it again...the vast majority of Americans recognize the need for legalized abortion in certain circumstances....not unlike what I just described. In fact the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG)...Baron's specialty...has repeatedly, and strongly, advocated for legalized Abortion services. I'll also note that this is not simply a Catholic one...it affects members of all religions and atheists as well.

Women's reproductive rights must be respected and not denied by government. I personally share the desire to reduce the need for abortions, but not at the price of denying women those rights. The best way to promote such a reduction is to support...a) Contraception, b) Sex & Sexuality Education for people of all ages, and c) Fund more programs that make it tenable for women to carry such pregnancies to term.


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Replies to: "Not so simple..."

  • The new pope named himself after Pope Leo XIII, who led the Catholic Church through the changes wrou [LINK] - holybull101 - 7:42pm 5/12/25 (15) [View All]
    • He's definitely in tune with the modern world...another reason why he was a good choice. Here's more - TyroneIrish - 7:50pm 5/12/25
      • I hope you're crossing your fingers that he's pro-abortion! [NT] - jakers - 8:45pm 5/12/25
        • If you listen carefully to Cardinal Cupich you'll hear him mention Leo's shared support with Francis - TyroneIrish - 9:02pm 5/12/25
          • There is zilch to engage. They reject abortion. - jakers - 9:41pm 5/12/25
            • Nine out of Ten Americans disagree with you...and that includes Catholics as well. Even Catholic - TyroneIrish - 9:47pm 5/12/25
              • Jesus, you are a lying p.o.s. - jakers - 9:55pm 5/12/25
                • Everything I said is true... - TyroneIrish - 10:39pm 5/12/25
                  • No, it isn't. And Pope Francis was clear on abortion. - jakers - 10:56pm 5/12/25
                    • Yes it is...fetal Personhood is debated w/in the RCC...he said so...that matters, when the Woman is - TyroneIrish - 11:08pm 5/12/25
                      • I'll make it easy: What did the Pope say about abortion? [NT] - jakers - 9:14am 5/13/25
                        • Not so simple... - TyroneIrish - 5:13pm 5/13/25
                          • It's simple. The answers have been direct. You are a liar. [NT] - jakers - 9:37am 5/14/25
                            • How do you explain the RCC Catechism's acceptance of killing in the case of "Just Wars"? [NT] - TyroneIrish - 10:11pm 5/14/25
                        • Francis backed catholic teaching-abortion is an evil, mortal sin. Humanity det’d by soul imbued at - BaronVonZemo - 12:40pm 5/13/25
                          • Proof Positive that you're not 'Ignoring' me, Baron...come out from behind your curtain and dialogue - TyroneIrish - 5:30pm 5/13/25
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