All he had to do was apologize. Instead he lied and lied.

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All he had to do was apologize. Instead he lied and lied.

Author: Chris94 (36583 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:30 am on May 16, 2025

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I’m in favor of adding a wing onto Cooperstown for the various cheats and law breakers. A hall of shame, maybe.

I think Bonds should get in (to the real HOF). Steroids or no steroids, he had the most dominant season at the plate ever. And would have blown past 500 HRs without the juice.

Replies to: "All he had to do was apologize. Instead he lied and lied."

Pete Rose - Mark - 10:20am 5/16/25 (36) [View All]
- Did Pete bet on his team to lose? If so, no amount of "I'm sorry" can erase that. - ELP - 12:43pm 5/16/25
  - No. There was never evidence that he bet on them to lose. - jakers - 1:37pm 5/16/25
  - No, not to lose. [NT] - Frank L - 1:02pm 5/16/25
- A few words about Barry Bonds...he and the Giants watched as MLB touted the juiced up - TyroneIrish - 12:14pm 5/16/25
  - Are you from San Fran, that explains it. [NT] - THEISMANCARR - 3:00am 5/17/25
    - From NYC as well as the Bay Area...I confess to fandom on this issue...Loved the rubber chickens - TyroneIrish - 3:16pm 5/17/25
      - His bald bean got so big from roiding that he looked like one of those alien species on Star Trek. - Frank L - 6:02pm 5/18/25
  - I hesitate to call it a "blind eye" from baseball as an orgranization. - jakers - 1:41pm 5/16/25
    - Sorry, but your take is too kind to MLB - Nigel Tufnel - 11:10am 5/17/25
      - I don't disagree that they didn't prioritize it enough. - jakers - 1:18pm 5/17/25
  - Yup, and now he’s part of the informal cheaters ban like they are. He made the choice. - Frank L - 12:30pm 5/16/25
- Nope. He fucked around and found out. [NT] - Domer From Hell - 11:34am 5/16/25
- His story should be told at the HOF - Show how he disgraced the game but he should never be - jimbasil - 11:22am 5/16/25
- My take is that the punishment was a Lifetime Ban. And it was fair. - jakers - 11:04am 5/16/25
  - Agree, it was a lifetime ban. - PaND - 11:22am 5/16/25
    - Technically that's not right [LINK] - Mark - 11:35am 5/16/25
      - I stand corrected. - PaND - 12:22pm 5/16/25
      - That pretty much seals the deal on Pete Rose...unrepentant to the end...believing He was above - TyroneIrish - 12:00pm 5/16/25
      - Agree with that, but didn't Giamatti and Rose agree on Lifetime Ban? [NT] - jakers - 11:57am 5/16/25
        Not that I know of - Mark - 12:40pm 5/16/25
        I just checked: The accepted punishment was Lifetime Ineligibility. - jakers - 1:36pm 5/16/25
        Good, nothing he did helped his performance on the field - PaND - 3:47pm 5/16/25
- "Go home and tell your kids there's no more rules" [LINK] - Hensou - 10:35am 5/16/25
- I understand your point, but I would argue the egregiousness of cheating in the WS is at that level - Frank L - 10:31am 5/16/25
- All he had to do was apologize. Instead he lied and lied. - Chris94 - 10:30am 5/16/25
  - I struggle with exceptions for guys who were H.O.F. players before they juiced. - jakers - 11:22am 5/16/25
    - I agree. It's tough. - Chris94 - 11:37am 5/16/25
      - McGwire, maybe. Not sure about Sosa. - jakers - 2:00pm 5/16/25
  - Agree. Without contrition how could he be absolved! [NT] - Hensou - 11:05am 5/16/25
  - Barry is a despicable human being. No Hall of Fame can change that. [NT] - Hensou - 10:45am 5/16/25
    - True, but lots of despicable human beings are in the Hall of Fame. That's not a disqualification. [NT] - Chris94 - 11:34am 5/16/25
      - I never said it disqualified him. Just that the HOF will not change the fact that he is despicable. - Hensou - 11:47am 5/16/25
  - Even when he did, they still wouldn’t let him in. [NT] - Frank L - 10:31am 5/16/25