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It’s amazing hiw the doves have become the hawks for their tribes interests

Author: BaronVonZemo (59240 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)
Posted at 4:55 pm on Jun 1, 2025
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I guess that you have to be old enough to appreciate the irony.

In Vietnam, we fought with the goal of a standstill, and we chose not to push to win.

In Ukraine, like in Afghanistan, winning isn’t possible.

The left’s zeal for Ukrainian’s to “fight until we are all dead” -and that includes all of the conscripts with no choice - is mind boggling when paired with their previous views.

I would have pushed to win in Vietnam - but when it became clear that wasn’t the goal, I (and almost everyone) favored getting out.

The same applies here to Ukraine (as it did in Afghanistan too).

Because most of these liberals here reflect the talking points of their DNC programmers, it makes me wonder why they are giving such a viewpoint to their drones.
It really makes me want a full accounting of where all of the Ukraine Aid money is REALLY going,


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Replies to: "It’s amazing hiw the doves have become the hawks for their tribes interests"

  • Go Ukraine! - AlbanyIRISH - 11:02am 6/1/25 (42) [View All]
    • Thought you hated Nazis. [NT] - Cole - 10:49pm 6/1/25
      • You’re disgusting! [NT] - jimbasil - 12:54pm 6/2/25
      • Zelensky is Jewish, Cole...how many Jews were included in Nazi Party?... [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 11:59am 6/2/25
        • He’s a know nothing fool. [NT] - Domer From Hell - 3:47pm 6/2/25
          • Eli is worse, but just barely. [NT] - Frank L - 4:25pm 6/2/25
      • Debunked and nothing more than Russian disinformation [NT] - Domer From Hell - 10:12am 6/2/25
    • Impressive tactical operations from them [NT] - Death - 5:50pm 6/1/25
      • Fitting that Death has given his seal of approval. [NT] - MAS - 9:47pm 6/1/25
    • This is the only way that war ends - Chris94 - 5:37pm 6/1/25
      • CORRECTION: we had nothing to do with it [LINK] - Chris94 - 5:41pm 6/1/25
        • Even if we did, I would hope the US and Ukraine would keep that secret. No reason to announce that. - NedoftheHill - 7:35pm 6/1/25
          • Haha if we don’t announce it Russia will never know. - Cole - 10:45pm 6/1/25
        • Pretty clear neither side will negotiate peace. Time to step away. Uk working behind scenes w EU - - BaronVonZemo - 6:41pm 6/1/25
          • False. One side wants peace. - Chris94 - 3:10am 6/2/25
            • Truth. Russia needs the war time economy [NT] - Domer From Hell - 8:30pm 6/2/25
        • Trump would have absolutely leaked that to Putin [NT] - Death - 5:52pm 6/1/25
          • Hence the deep cover…Zelensky and his Intelligence Agency have DJT pegged. [NT] - TyroneIrish - 6:47pm 6/1/25
    • Go team go! Go team go! Push 'em back, push 'em back! - MAS - 3:28pm 6/1/25
      • It’s amazing hiw the doves have become the hawks for their tribes interests - BaronVonZemo - 4:55pm 6/1/25
        • Baron has no idea what he is talking about, Part MCMVII [NT] - Chris94 - 5:38pm 6/1/25
          • And "Baron Is Proven Right Again, Part MCMVII" will not impact your thinking in the slightest. This - BaronVonZemo - 6:39pm 6/1/25
    • I believe this is what you’re alluding to… [LINK] - Domer From Hell - 11:07am 6/1/25
      • Correct. - AlbanyIRISH - 11:24am 6/1/25
        • Imagine what more they’d do with continued US support. Unfortunately… - Domer From Hell - 11:50am 6/1/25
          • With Europe backing them, they will hang on. Putin has lost a million casualties. Never hear that - Frank L - 10:43am 6/2/25
          • I imagine that they could keep the war going for years. They can't win, but they could continue - BaronVonZemo - 2:16pm 6/1/25
            • Imagine another nation attacking your country of Russia. You’d fight to the bitter end. [NT] - jimbasil - 4:12pm 6/1/25
            • You couldn’t care less about Ukrainian soldiers and civilians… - Domer From Hell - 2:26pm 6/1/25
              • Don’t presume my intentions. How wonderful, we gained 10 more meters at the Maginot Line. - BaronVonZemo - 2:47pm 6/1/25
                • You know the definition of ally, yes?… - Domer From Hell - 3:01pm 6/1/25
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