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It protects against infection but doesn’t fully prevent it is the better phrasing.
Author:
Frank L
(59804 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)
Posted at 10:06 am on Aug 10, 2021
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Your chances of catching delta are much higher if you are not vaxxed.
Replies to: "It protects against infection but doesn’t fully prevent it is the better phrasing."
So what if it turns out the vaccines enable the mutations of the virus?
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iairishcheeks
- 8:52pm 8/9/21
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If the vaccine is a killer vaccine like small box/measles vaccine, no worry. they eradicate virus
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Eli
- 11:56am 8/10/21
Is there any dispute that lower vaccination rates = higher hospitalization and death rates?
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conorlarkin
- 7:36am 8/10/21
No.
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jakers
- 9:32am 8/10/21
More distraction ^^^^
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eftg1
- 8:07am 8/10/21
How?
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Chris94
- 11:01pm 8/9/21
Science?
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TakethetrainKnute
- 11:05pm 8/9/21
Ok, I’m asking how. I don’t understand.
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Chris94
- 11:50pm 8/9/21
Sorry, took that as disbelief not inquisitiveness.
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TakethetrainKnute
- 6:32am 8/10/21
A fair assumption.
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Chris94
- 8:45am 8/10/21
And here is an excerpt from a noted epidemiologist.
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iairishcheeks
- 3:22am 8/10/21
OK, I see - essentially if there is a strain that the vaccines don’t work against...
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Chris94
- 8:47am 8/10/21
That strain exists, it's called Delta.
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iairishcheeks
- 11:02am 8/10/21
You can’t fix stupid. This was precisely the argument that the plague rats previously rejected when
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Frank L
- 9:56am 8/10/21
Here's one peer reviewed study on the topic.
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iairishcheeks
- 3:17am 8/10/21
Is there “science” behind that? Oh, wait, there actually is…
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TakethetrainKnute
- 10:57pm 8/9/21
Hopefully, the attached link helps with understanding virus mutations, variants, etc...as the
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TyroneIrish
- 9:49pm 8/9/21
Exactly which is why the earlier denialist argument that not getting vaxxed was just a personal
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Frank L
- 8:53am 8/10/21
You forgot to mention that the vax doesn't prevent infection... it prevents severe illness.
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IrishMac
- 9:16am 8/10/21
It still protects against infection but it isn’t 100%. It would almost completely if it weren’t
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Frank L
- 9:58am 8/10/21
Disagree... we would have lower hospitalization numbers, which i think gives people the false hope
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IrishMac
- 10:04am 8/10/21
Not like in the un vaxxed. Everywhere there is a crisis there are also very low vax rates.
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Frank L
- 10:14am 8/10/21
I really think it does so well at preventing symptoms, we don't know the magnitude of spread.
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IrishMac
- 11:03am 8/10/21
Good call for the wife and you. My kids are all grown. If they weren’t I would get them vaxxed, but
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Frank L
- 11:46am 8/10/21
Good call by you in getting vaccinated...as for serious side effects, such as the ones you are
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TyroneIrish
- 11:21am 8/10/21
As we're learning more and more, the subject of viruses and vaccines can get very esoteric...what I
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TyroneIrish
- 2:28pm 8/10/21
Sorry Ty, hard pass on that one. Both of my girls had Covid prior, with very minor symptoms.
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IrishMac
- 11:48am 8/10/21
It doesn’t completely prevent but it does protect from contraction.
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Frank L
- 11:54am 8/10/21
True if the vaccine stops the spread of the virus, but this one doesn't.
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iairishcheeks
- 3:58am 8/10/21
While every vaccine is "imperfect"...the new mRNA vaccines are incredibly effective...they started
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TyroneIrish
- 2:47pm 8/10/21
And this
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eftg1
- 9:46pm 8/9/21
it is not for you to question, do what the science dictates. Just ask Frank and Chris.
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WestCoastIrishFan
- 10:22pm 8/9/21
They are
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eftg1
- 9:35pm 8/9/21
How many dead children will it take to convince people that vaccination is the best path?
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conorlarkin
- 9:20pm 8/9/21
More are dying from your aternatives.How many full term abortions musthappen before you come around?
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BaronVonZemo
- 9:36am 8/10/21
Absolutely false... the vax doesn't prevent infection, it prevents severe illness. Big difference.
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IrishMac
- 9:17am 8/10/21
It protects against infection but doesn’t fully prevent it is the better phrasing.
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Frank L
- 10:06am 8/10/21
^^^what IrishMac said
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eftg1
- 9:37am 8/10/21
You support late abortion . You have less than zero credibility. What is in that coconut of yours?
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ELP
- 7:16am 8/10/21
It's mostly fatties, not children.
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iairishcheeks
- 3:23am 8/10/21
^^^^what irishcheeks said 🥇
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eftg1
- 6:35am 8/10/21
Joe Biden says we’ve vaccinated 350 million Americans
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holybull101
- 9:44pm 8/9/21
Just incredible. Any excuse to escape reality.
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Frank L
- 9:43pm 8/9/21
When they use children to bolster their argument,you know it is BS
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eftg1
- 9:37pm 8/9/21
funny how it's all about the kids until it's not convenient.
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WestCoastIrishFan
- 9:32pm 8/9/21
.
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notredame678
- 9:25pm 8/9/21
This coming from Mr. Pro-abortion on demand. Priceless.
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notredame678
- 9:25pm 8/9/21
4th trimester abortion at that. He cuts A sharp figure in his pink hat at the rallies
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ColeyO
- 9:36pm 8/9/21
Funny he is now trying to deny the whole thing.
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notredame678
- 9:50pm 8/9/21
Not an expert, but this seems highly unlikely.
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Iggle
- 9:19pm 8/9/21
You'll also note that I said "enable" not "cause". Important distinction.
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iairishcheeks
- 4:38am 8/10/21
If the mutation kills the host before the mutation can spread it's the end of the evolutionary branc
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iairishcheeks
- 3:31am 8/10/21
Yeah, what if?!
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jimbasil
- 9:16pm 8/9/21
You misspelled it is
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Buffaloirish
- 9:42pm 8/9/21