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Much as it pains me to admit, I give Trump credit here. Long overdue.

Author: Frank L (64662 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)
Posted at 9:58 am on Jun 25, 2025
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Link: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-nato-mark-rutte-defense-b2776610.html

Replies to: "Much as it pains me to admit, I give Trump credit here. Long overdue."

  • Much as it pains me to admit, I give Trump credit here. Long overdue. [NT] [LINK] - Frank L - 9:58am 6/25/25 (33) [View All]
    • Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while. [NT] - ND521 - 4:24pm 6/25/25
      • What a d bag response. [NT] - Frankx - 6:48pm 6/25/25
        • Your Don calls supporters 'basement dwellers' & Vets 'suckers and losers'. All yours, Senior Chief. [NT] - ND521 - 7:59pm 6/25/25
          • Wrong again, I have a star. You’ve bought into the hate just to be right. Sad [NT] - Frankx - 9:29pm 6/25/25
            • Corrected. Headed down for 4th. Sea 'N Air and fam time. [NT] - ND521 - 10:35pm 6/25/25
              • Holes 2 3 and 4. Hit a 4 iron from the left fairway bunker on #4 to a foot from 185 [NT] - Frankx - 10:58pm 6/25/25
      • Oh he has his own agenda which is to make them shoulder their own defense without us. [NT] - Frank L - 5:09pm 6/25/25
    • Previously, you & other Dems thought his negotiating position was his final position. - NedoftheHill - 1:07pm 6/25/25
      • Stand by all of those comments. And yeah no one ever thought he ever changes positions. Hence the - Frank L - 1:24pm 6/25/25
        • Every negotiation entails setting a goal, and taking an initial position that will be compromised. - NedoftheHill - 1:37pm 6/25/25
          • Oh please shoring up NATO was never his goal. His goal is to not have to fulfill the Article 5 [LINK] - Frank L - 4:17pm 6/25/25
            • You are giving him credit for something you think he never intended. Um, ok. - NedoftheHill - 5:00pm 6/25/25
              • Oh I think he intended to push them to raise their contributions. I also think that he has no - Frank L - 5:13pm 6/25/25
                • Interesting viewpoint. I think he is not a subtle person like that. But, meh. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 7:01pm 6/25/25
                  • It’s not subtle at all. He has always disliked NATO and our commitment of having to directly defend - Frank L - 7:24pm 6/25/25
            • TDS. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 4:33pm 6/25/25
    • I’ll give Trump credit for this: - Chris94 - 12:16pm 6/25/25
    • We all hump our own shit. [NT] - LanceManion - 11:42am 6/25/25
    • NATO still hears DJT's words in last year's campaign questioning 'Article Five' along with - TyroneIrish - 11:33am 6/25/25
      • Of course. That's Trump's goal. Don't use Article 5 to seek US protection. What does 5% mean? - Eli - 12:44pm 6/25/25
        • “Do a math”. Can you at least try a little harder? [NT] - Domer From Hell - 1:00pm 6/25/25
    • You should also give Putin credit. He’s the one who made it happen. [NT] - Chris94 - 11:18am 6/25/25
      • That's the excuse sold to their citizens by EU establishment. They know US is leaving. The center of - Eli - 12:08pm 6/25/25
        • The US isn’t leaving and it’s Russia Russia Russia because Russia… - Domer From Hell - 12:57pm 6/25/25
          • Rolling back US footprint in Europe is no longer a secret. It's a plan. Slow and ignorant. [NT] [LINK] - Eli - 1:18pm 6/25/25
            • You’re uninformed and a traitor. The Pentagon… - Domer From Hell - 1:29pm 6/25/25
      • Putin made his attentions clear decades ago... the Euros blinded themselves to the truth. [LINK] - Curly1918 - 11:32am 6/25/25
        • The truth is that Trump supported Nordstream 2...(see linked article explaining this) [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 11:56am 6/25/25
    • Agree 100% [NT] - Domer From Hell - 10:52am 6/25/25
    • Ok, but the US doesn't spend 5% of it's GDP for defense, so why require others? [NT] - Quest4twelve - 10:22am 6/25/25
      • Because let’s face it in this alliance we do the rules. Moreover the sheer volume of our GDP - Frank L - 10:26am 6/25/25
    • He's a Gordian Knot cutter. [LINK] - Curly1918 - 10:10am 6/25/25
      • 'Knot' here...and 'Knot' in the Middle East either ;-) [NT] - TyroneIrish - 11:59am 6/25/25
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