Menu
UHND.com - Notre Dame Football, Basketball, & Recruiting UHND.com - Notre Dame Football, Basketball, & Recruiting

UHND.com - Notre Dame Football, Basketball, & Recruiting

UHND.com - Notre Dame Football, Basketball, & Recruiting UHND.com - Notre Dame Football, Basketball, & Recruiting
  • Football
    • 2024 Notre Dame Football Schedule
    • 2024 Notre Dame Roster
    • 2024 Notre Dame Coaching Staff
    • Injury News & Updates
    • Notre Dame Football Depth Charts
    • Notre Dame Point Spreads & Betting Odds
    • Notre Dame Transfers
    • NFL Fighting Irish
    • Game Archive
    • Player Archive
    • Past Seasons & Results
  • Recruiting
    • Commits
    • News & Rumors
    • Class of 2018 Commit List
    • Class of 2019 Commit List
    • Class of 2020 Commit List
    • Class of 2021 Commit List
    • Archives
  • History
    • Notre Dame Bowl History
    • Notre Dame NFL Draft History
    • Notre Dame Football ESPN GameDay History
    • Notre Dame Heisman Trophy Winners
    • Notre Dame Football National Championships
    • Notre Dame Football Rivalries
    • Notre Dame Stadium
    • Touchdown Jesus
  • Basketball
  • Forums
    • Chat Room
    • Football Forum
    • Open Forum
    • Basketball Board
    • Ticket Exchange
  • Videos
    • Notre Dame Basketball Highlights
    • Notre Dame Football Highlights
    • Notre Dame Football Recruiting Highlights
    • Notre Dame Player Highlights
    • Hype Videos
  • Latest News
  • Gear
  • About
    • Advertise With Us
    • Contact Us
    • Our RSS Feeds
    • Community Rules
    • Privacy Policy
  • RSS
  • YouTube
  • Twitter
  • Facebook
Home > Forums > The Open Forum
Login | Register

The proper question, Mark, is how does Dr. Fareed explain his phenomenal success, when no other

Author: TyroneIrish (20668 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 1:37 pm on Jul 16, 2025
View All

RCT could? The good Doctor may be an excellent Family Physician, but he's not a Virologist or Epidemiologist who practices in those fields for a living. Those who are professionals in those fields like Dr. Risch's peers at Yale Medical School and the American Journal of Epidemiology have publicly gone on record denouncing HCQ+ as a treatment for COVID-19.

The fundamental reason why HCQ+ never got FDA approval is because Dr. Risch, Dr. Fareed, Dr. Tyson and other "Sponsors" of that drug treatment failed to provide data from an RCT that proved any benefit in the manner of usage they recommended. If they truly believed in it, they should have ponied up the money and conducted it...like Pfizer did with "Paxlovid"...a drug treatment that was so successful the FDA halted the trials early in order to get it out to the public asap.

Here's an AI summary to the question of whether or not proponents of HCQ+ had ever done an RCT for their recommended treatment...

--------------------
AI Overview

Submission of RCT data for FDA approval of hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) for COVID-19

While hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) was temporarily authorized for emergency use in hospitalized patients with COVID-19 based on limited evidence in 2020, the FDA later revoked this Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) in June 2020. This revocation was based on mounting evidence, including data from a large randomized controlled trial, indicating that the potential benefits did not outweigh the risks.

The FDA issued the EUA for HCQ for COVID-19 based on limited in-vitro and anecdotal clinical data available at the time. However, the EUA itself stated that the authorization was for the unapproved use of the drug in specific hospitalized patients where a clinical trial was not available or participation wasn't feasible.

The FDA recommends that the use of HCQ for COVID-19 should be limited to clinical trial settings or for treating certain hospitalized patients under the EUA (which has since been revoked). Healthcare professionals were advised to check ClinicalTrials.gov for suitable clinical trials and consider enrolling patients in such trials.

Therefore, to answer the question directly, sponsors of HCQ did not submit randomized controlled trial (RCT) data specifically for FDA approval of HCQ as a COVID-19 treatment. The EUA was based on limited data and was subsequently revoked after RCTs, like the RECOVERY trial, showed no evidence of benefit for mortality or other outcomes in hospitalized patients with COVID-19.

---------------------

Thankfully, the COVID-19 pandemic is behind us, so there's no need to keep beating this horse...but keep in mind the lesson learned when it comes to the next viral threat...which will definitely come some day...perhaps too soon with RFK Jr. at the helm of HHS...i.e. Conduct rigorous RCTs for any prospective drug that would be distributed to millions if not billions of human beings.


This message has been edited 1 time(s).

Replies to: "The proper question, Mark, is how does Dr. Fareed explain his phenomenal success, when no other"

  • Beating a dead horse department: Ty, how do you explain Dr. Fareed's success with HCQ+? - MarkHarman - 10:51am 7/16/25 (31) [View All]
    • Here's the other issue that the Pfizer Cheerleaders aren't pointing out... - jakers - 4:51pm 7/16/25
      • Yes, even more so for Ivermectin. - iairishcheeks - 5:43pm 7/16/25
    • The proper question, Mark, is how does Dr. Fareed explain his phenomenal success, when no other - TyroneIrish - 1:37pm 7/16/25
      • This answer shows why you have no logical ability and are as dense as anyone here - MarkHarman - 1:49pm 7/16/25
        • Mark, it's the responsibility of the "Sponsor" to run RCT studies that prove their drug treatment's - TyroneIrish - 2:07pm 7/16/25
          • Thank you for highlighting the fatal flaw in the system. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 5:59pm 7/16/25
          • Here's why you can't compare Pfizer to makers of HCQ+ - MarkHarman - 3:58pm 7/16/25
    • Beating a dead horse department: When will you stop? [NT] - jimbasil - 12:16pm 7/16/25
    • Proof of a gigantic conspiracy by Big Pharma or Fauci or Big State whatever - Chris94 - 11:06am 7/16/25
      • Are you willing to consider that it was a gigantic failure by the medical community? How do you - MarkHarman - 1:56pm 7/16/25
        • Yes, that’s the obvious likely conclusion as opposed to HCQ being a bullshit remedy for COVID. [NT] - Frank L - 4:04pm 7/16/25
          • Then how do you explain Dr. Fareed's and Dr. Zelenko's success with HCQ+ if it's b.s.? - MarkHarman - 4:26pm 7/16/25
            • How do you explain everyone else who claim it’s ineffective? You think they are being paid off by - Frank L - 4:38pm 7/16/25
      • Name calling does not refute Fareed's success. [NT] - Hensou - 11:38am 7/16/25
        • One study does not refute hundreds of studies. [NT] - Chris94 - 12:29pm 7/16/25
          • That is a false claim. - BaronVonZemo - 1:48pm 7/16/25
          • You're uninformed, too. Let me educate you - MarkHarman - 1:38pm 7/16/25
            • Let me educate you: your internet research is not impressive [NT] - Chris94 - 2:38pm 7/16/25
              • You just can't lower yourself to admit I'm right about something. - MarkHarman - 4:23pm 7/16/25
              • Yet you can't refute Fareed's success. [NT] - Hensou - 2:46pm 7/16/25
            • RCTs are the "Gold Standard" for decision making when it comes to 'Life or Death' drug treatments - TyroneIrish - 2:20pm 7/16/25
          • Then clinically refute it without name calling. [NT] - Hensou - 12:38pm 7/16/25
      • I think Epstein was running the clinicals. [NT] - Frank L - 11:07am 7/16/25
    • The issue with the studies Ty references - wrdomerson - 11:04am 7/16/25
      • It's the responsibility of the drug treatment sponsors to run RCT studies in the manner they - TyroneIrish - 2:02pm 7/16/25
        • You mean TMPRSS2.. and I did dig deeper. - MarkHarman - 4:38pm 7/16/25
          • Has Dr. Fareed, or any other, conducted an RCT with the treatment protocol you call for?... - TyroneIrish - 5:46pm 7/16/25
        • That's not the point of my post, and I know you won't change your mind. - wrdomerson - 3:07pm 7/16/25
      • While your information is correct and you get it, the issue is Ty's idiocy on this subject - MarkHarman - 2:01pm 7/16/25
        • It is hypocritical of Ty to demand people read his links, and to not read yours - wrdomerson - 3:12pm 7/16/25
          • Well, first off, I've never hounded anyone on this Forum for not reading a singular link of mine... - TyroneIrish - 5:17pm 7/16/25
Close
  • Facebook
  • Twitter
  • YouTube
  • RSS