I've already explained this but I'll try again. At least you seem open to hearing this

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I've already explained this but I'll try again. At least you seem open to hearing this

Author: MarkHarman (7310 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:37 pm on Jul 16, 2025

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All the RCTs were conducted on already-hospitalized patients or they used hydroxychloroquine only without zinc and azithromycin. Since HCQ+ had to be used within 5-7 days of symptom onset, these trials were doomed to failure. Yet, doctors everywhere (most prominent Dr. Fareed and Dr. Zelenko) found almost none of their patients dying or even going to the hospital.

The Great Fauchino is on record as he considers all observational data as "anecdotal" as not valid, so the rest of the medical community went along. His outsized influence on this and other medical matters cannot be underestimated.

Replies to: "I've already explained this but I'll try again. At least you seem open to hearing this"

Beating a dead horse department: Ty, how do you explain Dr. Fareed's success with HCQ+? - MarkHarman - 10:51am 7/16/25 (59) [View All]
- Here's the other issue that the Pfizer Cheerleaders aren't pointing out... - jakers - 4:51pm 7/16/25
  - Jake, the FDA approved an EUA for HCQ around the March, 2020 time frame...for clinical trials only, - TyroneIrish - 7:44pm 7/16/25
    - Now you're outright lying - MarkHarman - 10:01pm 7/16/25
      - Easy there, Mark...do some research before posting... - TyroneIrish - 10:49pm 7/16/25
  - Correct. Paxlovid is not inferior and the "wrong" person touted HCQ - MarkHarman - 7:31pm 7/16/25
    - It's not that HCQ RCTs were done incorrectly...they weren't done at all...by the "Sponsors". [NT] - TyroneIrish - 7:47pm 7/16/25
  - Yes, even more so for Ivermectin. - iairishcheeks - 5:43pm 7/16/25
    - Start another thread, Cheeks...this one is about HCQ+ [NT] - TyroneIrish - 7:48pm 7/16/25
      - Yeah, cheeks' post has uncomfortable data for you. - jakers - 8:10pm 7/16/25
- The proper question, Mark, is how does Dr. Fareed explain his phenomenal success, when no other - TyroneIrish - 1:37pm 7/16/25
  - This answer shows why you have no logical ability and are as dense as anyone here - MarkHarman - 1:49pm 7/16/25
    - Mark, it's the responsibility of the "Sponsor" to run RCT studies that prove their drug treatment's - TyroneIrish - 2:07pm 7/16/25
      - Thank you for highlighting the fatal flaw in the system. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 5:59pm 7/16/25
        If you think it's a "flaw", what's your solution? [NT] - TyroneIrish - 6:26pm 7/16/25
        Our conglomerate of public servants, regulators and scientists should run the studies and... - iairishcheeks - 9:12pm 7/16/25
        Sadly, DJT has fired all the IGs...and is dramatically cutting government funding for university - TyroneIrish - 10:22pm 7/16/25
        I think you're afraid to ask AI proper questions. - iairishcheeks - 10:35pm 7/16/25
        While I didn't post it, I also asked "AI" if Inspectors General were tasked with finding Conflicts - TyroneIrish - 10:57pm 7/16/25
        Maybe you should ask "AI" (not sure why that is in quotes).. - iairishcheeks - 11:34pm 7/16/25
        The phrase “Perfect is the Enemy of Good” applies here…the vast majority of your AI - TyroneIrish - 1:10am 7/17/25
        What is your evidence the ones that shouldn't have been fired were? - iairishcheeks - 4:29am 7/17/25
        Here’s an analogy for you… - TyroneIrish - 9:19am 7/17/25
      - Here's why you can't compare Pfizer to makers of HCQ+ - MarkHarman - 3:58pm 7/16/25
        It's taken a few years, but at least you now know why there's been "No RCT"; can we put this to bed? [NT] - TyroneIrish - 6:25pm 7/16/25
- Beating a dead horse department: When will you stop? [NT] - jimbasil - 12:16pm 7/16/25
- Proof of a gigantic conspiracy by Big Pharma or Fauci or Big State whatever - Chris94 - 11:06am 7/16/25
  - Are you willing to consider that it was a gigantic failure by the medical community? How do you - MarkHarman - 1:56pm 7/16/25
    - Yes, that’s the obvious likely conclusion as opposed to HCQ being a bullshit remedy for COVID. [NT] - Frank L - 4:04pm 7/16/25
      - Then how do you explain Dr. Fareed's and Dr. Zelenko's success with HCQ+ if it's b.s.? - MarkHarman - 4:26pm 7/16/25
        How do you explain everyone else who claim it’s ineffective? You think they are being paid off by - Frank L - 4:38pm 7/16/25
        I've already explained this but I'll try again. At least you seem open to hearing this - MarkHarman - 7:37pm 7/16/25
        Listen for a change...RCTs are conducted by drug Sponsors...ask Dr. Risch why none were done using - TyroneIrish - 7:51pm 7/16/25
  - Name calling does not refute Fareed's success. [NT] - Hensou - 11:38am 7/16/25
    - One study does not refute hundreds of studies. [NT] - Chris94 - 12:29pm 7/16/25
      - That is a false claim. - BaronVonZemo - 1:48pm 7/16/25
      - You're uninformed, too. Let me educate you - MarkHarman - 1:38pm 7/16/25
        Let me educate you: your internet research is not impressive [NT] - Chris94 - 2:38pm 7/16/25
        You just can't lower yourself to admit I'm right about something. - MarkHarman - 4:23pm 7/16/25
        I understand this: it’s one doc vs. the rest of the scientific community . - Chris94 - 6:38pm 7/16/25
        Chris, why are you dense like Ty, too? It wasn't just "one" doctor - MarkHarman - 7:43pm 7/16/25
        Why would those closest to him…peers at Yale and the AJE publicly refute Risch and his paper? [NT] - TyroneIrish - 1:14am 7/17/25
        Once again...THEY DIDN'T REFUTE HIS PAPER!! Gee, you're ultra-dense - MarkHarman - 8:48am 7/17/25
        Have you read their letters…to the American public? They couldn’t have been more damning of his - TyroneIrish - 9:31am 7/17/25
        
        Yet you can't refute Fareed's success. [NT] - Hensou - 2:46pm 7/16/25
        
        RCTs are the "Gold Standard" for decision making when it comes to 'Life or Death' drug treatments - TyroneIrish - 2:20pm 7/16/25
      - Then clinically refute it without name calling. [NT] - Hensou - 12:38pm 7/16/25
  - I think Epstein was running the clinicals. [NT] - Frank L - 11:07am 7/16/25
- The issue with the studies Ty references - wrdomerson - 11:04am 7/16/25
  - It's the responsibility of the drug treatment sponsors to run RCT studies in the manner they - TyroneIrish - 2:02pm 7/16/25
    - You mean TMPRSS2.. and I did dig deeper. - MarkHarman - 4:38pm 7/16/25
      - Has Dr. Fareed, or any other, conducted an RCT with the treatment protocol you call for?... - TyroneIrish - 5:46pm 7/16/25
        Man, you really ARE this dense - MarkHarman - 7:50pm 7/16/25
    - That's not the point of my post, and I know you won't change your mind. - wrdomerson - 3:07pm 7/16/25
  - While your information is correct and you get it, the issue is Ty's idiocy on this subject - MarkHarman - 2:01pm 7/16/25
    - It is hypocritical of Ty to demand people read his links, and to not read yours - wrdomerson - 3:12pm 7/16/25
      - Well, first off, I've never hounded anyone on this Forum for not reading a singular link of mine... - TyroneIrish - 5:17pm 7/16/25
        And Dr. Risch himself also refuted the faulty studies and didn't use them in his paper [LINK] - MarkHarman - 7:59pm 7/16/25
        The definition of Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, expecting different results. - TyroneIrish - 11:13pm 7/16/25
        Yes, because you are the dense one - MarkHarman - 8:50am 7/17/25