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And cruelty -- which a good chunk of his voters are now rejecting.

Author: conorlarkin (21347 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 3:07 pm on Jul 19, 2025
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[Alondra says her dad wept when she was first able to visit him in detention and told him that community members had contributed $25,000 to his GoFundMe — and on a later visit, she told him, “If you were crying at 25K, you’re really going to be crying now, Dad.”

Sure enough, he cried again.

Judging from what unfolded here in Yamhill County, voters may have wanted a tightening of the border and the deportation of criminals — but not the arrest of a longtime neighbor. They wanted Trump to pursue gangsters, not destroy small businesses. Many people here sought some middle ground on immigration and felt they didn’t get it from Biden, but now they find they’re not getting it from Trump, either.

Even for Americans who welcomed more deportations, there’s something chilling about the militarization of the crackdown and the echoes of police state practices: plainclothes officers wearing masks, refusing to give their names, grabbing people off the streets and hustling them into unmarked vehicles. Something like that happened to me once in China — but State Security there treated me far better than ICE treats immigrants here.

Consider also the financial cost of all this. ICE says that “the average cost to arrest, detain and remove an illegal alien is $17,121.” Thus the administration’s goal of one million deportations would cost $17 billion — and presumably be repeated annually. For comparison, that’s more than all 50 states spend together on pre-K.

Trump has more than tripled the annual ICE budget to $28 billion, making it the most expensive law enforcement agency in the federal government. Indeed, that’s more than the current annual budgets for the F.B.I., the Bureau of Prisons, the Drug Enforcement Administration and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives put together. Trump is also using officials from other law enforcement agencies to build a deportation army, meaning that fewer law enforcement officers are left to deal with homegrown criminals.]


Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/19/opinion/immigrants-ice-deportation.html

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Replies to: "And cruelty -- which a good chunk of his voters are now rejecting."

  • If you commit yourself to following and supporting Trump, you commit yourself to Lying and Deceit, - TyroneIrish - 2:59pm 7/19/25 (24) [View All]
    • How bad must the alternative have been? [NT] - LanceManion - 7:45pm 7/19/25
      • Exactly. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 4:12pm 7/20/25
      • Really? [NT] - jimbasil - 11:50pm 7/19/25
      • No one is anywhere near as bad as Trump...I doubt that anyone here believes he's a "Good Person"... - TyroneIrish - 9:53pm 7/19/25
        • It's hard to attack Trump on character when the guy who preceded him was comatose and you said nada [NT] - LanceManion - 7:35am 7/21/25
          • Apparently, it was YOU who was "Comatose" during the Biden administration ;-)... - TyroneIrish - 11:11am 7/21/25
    • Obviously not a concern for you since you supported Biden. - NedoftheHill - 4:49pm 7/19/25
      • How does one ignore Trump's lying and deceit?...especially when it impacts this country so deeply... - TyroneIrish - 6:06pm 7/19/25
        • You obviously know the answer to that, since you do it for the Biden administration. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 7:43pm 7/19/25
          • You’re drowning in a torrent of facts and truths and you think painting Biden with trump’s criminal - jimbasil - 9:21am 7/20/25
          • Compare and contrast Biden vs. Trump on any measure you choose...challenge me (us)...that's how we - TyroneIrish - 12:01am 7/20/25
      • Your defense for supporting a lying, cheating criminal is we support someone who hasn’t those flaws. - jimbasil - 5:31pm 7/19/25
        • Cult member posts again. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 7:44pm 7/19/25
    • True! [NT] - jimbasil - 4:29pm 7/19/25
    • Lying and deceit to the entire country was the basis of the 4 years J Biden was president [NT] - Frankx - 3:56pm 7/19/25
    • Why not give it a try. You clugs have tried everything else. LOL [NT] - ELP - 3:38pm 7/19/25
    • And cruelty -- which a good chunk of his voters are now rejecting. [LINK] - conorlarkin - 3:07pm 7/19/25
      • Trump's got to have his own "Brown Shirts"...what self-respecting Autocrat wouldn't?...and I do mean - TyroneIrish - 3:15pm 7/19/25
        • Brown shirts as in antifa and BLM? Remember the fun they gave us a few summers ago? [NT] - ELP - 4:02pm 7/19/25
          • Always running from uncomfortable truths…Trump has created a police force that is cruelly - TyroneIrish - 4:43pm 7/19/25
            • What is the name of this police force. - PaND - 11:02am 7/20/25
              • DSPTF [NT] - Frankx - 12:43pm 7/20/25
            • It appears you're programmed to run from your own uncomfortable truths. - ELP - 8:26am 7/20/25
              • Take a look at what Trump's BBB has given to "ICE" (see link)...the stated goal is 7K arrests/day... - TyroneIrish - 3:00pm 7/20/25
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