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Not true...

Author: TyroneIrish (21463 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 1:57 pm on Jul 21, 2025
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...here is an excerpt from the linked article which evaluates both approaches..
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Foremost, the scientific evidence must be considered. Specific to SARS-CoV-2, some results suggest that vaccine-induced immunity is more effective,3 other results suggest that natural immunity is more effective,4 and some findings estimate both options as roughly equal.5 All evidence appears to support that prior immunity helps reduce frequency of severe outcomes and prevents future infections. The scientific evidence thus supports an advantage for some level of protection beyond unvaccinated and uninfected, but further study is needed. Alternatively, public health professionals must weigh additional information than efficacy alone when building policy. Among the many possible factors, three key issues must be considered when determining whether vaccine mandates should accommodate immunity following prior infection: (1) risk exposure; (2) reliability; and (3) sustainment.

Risk exposure is the first issue. Notably, each pathway to immunity exposes individuals to different levels of risk. People could have adverse reactions to vaccines or severe outcomes due to infection. Adverse effects have been minimal for COVID-19 vaccines,6,7 indicating a nominal level of risk exposure. SARS-CoV-2 exposure, meanwhile, carries significant and well-documented dangers.8 Risk therefore becomes the cornerstone for making public health policy decisions as the vaccine is far safer than natural infection.

Reliability is the second issue. Without reliable information about the conditions conferring immunization, it becomes difficult to build policy. Vaccination uses the same formula each time, the same dosage, and with an identifiable date of vaccination, waning immunity can be documented with high reliability. Natural immunity is highly variable by comparison. People may not know which strain infected them without further testing, viral load during the infection, or precisely when their exposure occurred. Asymptomatic individuals may know none of this information. Serology testing for SARS-CoV-2 antibodies could also be unreliable due to timing and current serology test performance characteristics.9 Vaccines thus provide a more reliable option than natural infection when constructing policy.

Sustainment is the third issue. COVID immunization may not result in lasting immunity,10 and so public health policy must consider requirements to sustain immunity among the population. Tracking vaccine-induced immunity is relatively simple due to higher reliability. In turn, coordinating booster shots becomes easier because protocols can be optimized in accordance with prior vaccination. Boosters for natural infections are more difficult to coordinate. If date of infection is unknown, as with asymptomatic cases, and duration of waning immunity is unknown, as with most COVID cases, it becomes exponentially more difficult to build any consistent or meaningful policy. Vaccines represent the better option around which to coordinate boosters and ensure continuing immunity.

All three factors—risk exposure, reliability, and sustainment—support building public health policy around vaccines as the safest option. We have observed these differences in practice when implementing a vaccine mandate among military personnel. With the vaccine, logistical concerns around tracking have been much simpler than COVID-19 case counts. For example, we can track vaccinations as a percentage of total force, but we cannot fully track every case due to asymptomatic infections or mild symptoms left undocumented.

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Link: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8957290/

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Replies to: "Not true..."

  • Just a friendly reminder of where libs were only three and a half years ago. [LINK] - MAS - 11:42pm 7/20/25 (36) [View All]
    • Politicians from both sides have a latent love of authoritarianism and always seek "opportunities" - Curly1918 - 10:48am 7/21/25
    • Public health restrictions are not signs of authoritarianism - Chris94 - 9:46am 7/21/25
      • "Let's lie that there are studies saying we need to do these things &punish those who don't do them" - BaronVonZemo - 3:12pm 7/21/25
        • You do realize that it was your boy who supervised those decisions, yes? - Chris94 - 3:14pm 7/21/25
          • Fauci & govs had control & he’s your boy. - BaronVonZemo - 9:31pm 7/21/25
            • Trump was President. He was in control. - Chris94 - 9:32pm 7/21/25
              • No. Governors. Had the power & followed your High Sparrow. (Did you llltake HS civics?) - BaronVonZemo - 9:35pm 7/21/25
                • Yes the NIH was run by the governors - Chris94 - 10:54pm 7/21/25
                  • You never read the post. The govs followed Fauci. Fauci followed Dems...not Trump, that is for sure. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 3:02am 7/23/25
      • "Public Health Restrictions"...what could go wrong? Something about "the road to hell..." [NT] [LINK] - TakethetrainKnute - 10:37am 7/21/25
        • Chris is literally Hitler? [NT] - iairishcheeks - 10:39am 7/21/25
          • Well now, that's TOTALLY DIFFERENT! [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 3:13pm 7/21/25
      • Are authoritarian policies like the ones you cite signs of authoritarianism? [NT] - iairishcheeks - 10:29am 7/21/25
      • If your rights can be taken away when someone says "emergency", they're not rights. [NT] - Iggle - 10:17am 7/21/25
        • It was not a random emergency announcement. It was a global pandemic. [NT] - Chris94 - 1:53pm 7/21/25
    • Covid was a tyranny and the willingness of the left to instantly turn totalitarian was frightening. [NT] - LanceManion - 7:26am 7/21/25
    • Well, considering Rasmussen is a GOP leaning pollster...it's interesting that over 20% of Reps - TyroneIrish - 1:09am 7/21/25
      • No need to look at a poll, Just search posts on here in 2020/2021. [NT] - Iggle - 10:16am 7/21/25
      • Did your programmer tell you to say this? Lot of info from a non expert. - ELP - 9:49am 7/21/25
        • LOL...just look at the many links I've posted on this subject from the best sources in this nation.. - TyroneIrish - 10:26am 7/21/25
    • Filling the skate parks in with sand, welding rebar on basketball hoops... - iairishcheeks - 12:20am 7/21/25
      • Remember when Fauci &D’s told families not to invite healthy unvaccinated members to Christmas? [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 5:44am 7/21/25
        • Because infected persons can be asymptomatic...and those who are unvaccinated won't - TyroneIrish - 10:46am 7/21/25
          • "Dr. Fauci was doing his best to keep people healthy and alive." - MarkHarman - 8:03pm 7/21/25
          • Natural immunity was and is the best protection. [LINK] - iairishcheeks - 11:38am 7/21/25
            • Absolutely. Tell that to Killshot. And my cousin. - Chris94 - 8:59pm 7/21/25
            • Not true... [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 1:57pm 7/21/25
              • From 2023. [LINK] - iairishcheeks - 4:48pm 7/21/25
              • Mine was 6 months after yours, when idiots were acting like they didn't understand natural immunity. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 4:27pm 7/21/25
        • Fauci also has a wack definition of being Catholic - Hensou - 9:41am 7/21/25
          • All that Dr. Fauci has done in his life is save millions of lives...literally. Hensou would rather - TyroneIrish - 10:51am 7/21/25
            • And yet he cost over 500,000 Americans their lives (per Dr. Risch) - MarkHarman - 8:06pm 7/21/25
              • Hey cool Mark is chiming in with his moronspeak [NT] - Chris94 - 9:00pm 7/21/25
            • Noticed this post as I was logging in. Truly idiotic. - Hensou - 12:30pm 7/21/25
              • Just 'happened' to see my post...and read it...what are the odds? So much for Ignoring...just like - TyroneIrish - 2:11pm 7/21/25
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