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Read up on Fownes.

Author: Hensou (8771 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)
Posted at 11:19 am on Jul 22, 2025
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"What makes it so fun is that Oakmont's greens are so true. They are the most perfect greens in the world. There's no grain. They're magnificent, complex and not easy to read. There are multiple greens within some greens."

No less an authority than Ben Crenshaw said they were the best, toughest greens in the world.

Given Oakmont's age and how the sport of golf has changed, one of its most remarkable characteristics is its timelessness. It only plays 280 yards longer in this Open than it did in 1927. And the variation in scores since World War II is hard to believe.

Since Hogan won with a 283 in 1953, the winning scores have been 283 (Nicklaus, 1962), 279 (Miller, 1973), 280 (Nelson, 1983), 279 (Els, 1994) and 285 (Cabrera, 2007). That's a six-shot variation in the past 63 years, a fact which puts to bed any idea that weather conditions will drastically shift conditions. Past Oakmont Opens have seen rain, heat and wind, yet the scores stay the same. It's because the greens dry out quickly and the rain makes a confounding course all the more confusing.

History says the winner is going to be a player with the talent to stay straight, be in a spot on the fairway to get his approach below the hole, avoid too many three-putts and will shoot between one-under and five-over. Or, to be more succinct and to adhere to the century-old tradition at Oakmont, the guy holding the trophy on Sunday will be whoever plays the fewest shots poorly.

Fox News
Full disclosure: Johnson shot a 276 in 2017. Spaun 279 in 2025.
Still remarkable consistency


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Replies to: "Read up on Fownes."

  • Random thoughts on this year's golf majors. - Rooney - 7:10am 7/22/25 (18) [View All]
    • I hope Spieth is not done but he needs to get his head together on the short putts. He hits a lot of - THEISMANCARR - 10:09am 7/22/25
    • Nice post. For me 2025 majors will be memorable (in a bad way) for course selection. - BaronVonZemo - 7:47am 7/22/25
      • More worthy than Oakmont? Whatya nuts? - Hensou - 8:30am 7/22/25
        • Only because its old & influential. I’m guessing Carnegies? [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 11:03am 7/22/25
          • Read up on Fownes. - Hensou - 11:19am 7/22/25
            • I back down.Are you from the Pittsburgh area? [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 11:29am 7/22/25
              • It's all good. Enjoy! [NT] - Hensou - 11:30am 7/22/25
      • Links courses look awkward on TV. - Rooney - 8:05am 7/22/25
        • "Not tricked up with unplayable rough, or stimped up greens." - Hensou - 8:21am 7/22/25
          • Agree, the US Open is the premier golf tournament. - PaND - 9:07am 7/22/25
            • I do recall Bethpage greens being so slippery one yr that players needed climbing gear & pitons :) [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 1:20pm 7/22/25
              • Shinnecock 2004 was ridiculous. [NT] - Hensou - 1:35pm 7/22/25
              • I like the tournaments that are won closer to par. - PaND - 1:34pm 7/22/25
                • The Euros hate the US Open. With good reason. - Hensou - 1:47pm 7/22/25
                • That is a plus. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 1:39pm 7/22/25
            • The Golden Bear agrees. [LINK] - Hensou - 9:12am 7/22/25
    • Spaun birdied 17 and 18 in the rain. - Hensou - 7:34am 7/22/25
      • . [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 7:45am 7/22/25
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