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Indeed. Of course.

Author: conorlarkin (21165 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 2:10 pm on Jul 29, 2025
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How did we get here, where a Jewish democratic state, descended in part from the Holocaust, is engaged in a policy of starvation in a war with Hamas that has become the longest and most deadly war between Israelis and Palestinians in Israel’s history — and shows no sign of ending?

My answer: What makes this war different is that it pits what I believe is the worst, most fanatical and amoral government in Israel’s history against the worst, most fanatical, murderous organization in Palestinian history.

But they are alike not just in the awfulness of their goals — each seeking to wipe out the other to control all the territory from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea. They are also guided by leaders who have consistently prioritized their own political survival and ideological obsessions over the basic well-being of their own people — not to mention the interests of the United States.

You may have noticed that this war has no generally accepted name — like the Six-Day War, the Sinai War or the October War. Well, I personally have always had a name for it. It’s the War of the Worst.

This is the first Israeli-Palestinian war where the worst leaders on both sides are calling all the shots. The moderate Israeli opposition parties and the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank have no influence. And that is why I cannot tell you how or when it will end. Because Netanyahu still insists on “total victory” over Hamas, which he will never achieve, and the Hamas leadership still insists on surviving this war in order to still control Gaza the morning after, which it does not deserve.

Let’s go to the videotape: For months Hamas has been fully aware of the acute food and housing shortage in Gaza — shortages it helped trigger by launching a savage attack on Israel on Oct. 7, 2023, without any plan for the morning after other than to kill as many Jews as it could and with no strategy to protect civilians in Gaza from what Hamas knew would be a savage Israeli retaliation. For months now Hamas has also known that if it released its Israeli hostages, agreed that its leadership would leave Gaza and invited an Arab peacekeeping force blessed by the Palestinian Authority to run Gaza instead of Hamas, the suffering of Gazans would stop immediately.

But Hamas refuses to do that. It not only wants to keep control of Gaza after any cease-fire; it also wants the United States to guarantee its safety from a resumption of Israeli attacks if and when it gives up the last Israeli hostages, whom Hamas has stashed in tunnels and elsewhere for more than 21 months. This is a sick, twisted organization that bears huge responsibility for the suffering in Gaza.

But what too many people still have not grasped is just how sick this current Israeli government is. Too many American officials, lawmakers and American Jews keep trying to tell themselves that this is simply another right-wing Israeli government, but just a little more right. Wrong.

As I have argued since my column on Nov. 4, 2022, the morning after this Israeli government was elected, which was titled “The Israel We Knew Is Gone,” this Israeli government is uniquely awful.

This minority strain of thinking has always been there, but it had never been given the power it has today. It has never been allowed to direct Israel’s huge advanced war machine. This is Bibi’s unique contribution. He has not only empowered the worst of the worst in Israel but also simultaneously sought to unshackle them from the rule of law. He has engaged in a nonstop campaign to strip power from Israel’s independent, ethical gatekeepers, like the former heads of the Shin Bet security service and the Israeli Army. As I write, Netanyahu is trying to oust Israel’s high-integrity, independent attorney general, after a two-year campaign to undermine the oversight powers of Israel’s Supreme Court, precisely to do something no Israeli government has ever done: formally annex the West Bank, if not Gaza, too — and push out as many Palestinians as possible — without any legal restraints.

Trump and his Middle East envoy, Steve Witkoff, have never understood this. They think everyone is just as transactional as they are — whether it’s Vladimir Putin or Netanyahu — and that deep down everyone wants “peace” first and foremost and not “a piece” of Ukraine or “a piece” of the West Bank or Gaza. That is how Bibi and Putin have, each in their own way, managed to play Trump and Witkoff for fools for so long.

What is an example of that? In January, Israel and Hamas agreed to a three-phase cease-fire deal that involved a hostage exchange and a prisoner swap. But Trump and Witkoff let Netanyahu unilaterally break the cease-fire in March, before the last two phases could be negotiated. Bibi cited Hamas’s refusal to meet Israel’s demand to release more hostages before negotiations would resume — even though Hamas was never obligated to do so in Phase 1 of the U.S.-brokered deal.

It was all to serve Bibi’s political needs. Smotrich and the other extremists effectively told Bibi he had to restart the war or be toppled, and Bibi duped Trump and Witkoff into believing he could free the hostages with harsher military blows on Hamas and more hardship for Gazan civilians, and by confining the population to a small corner of the strip.

It all turned out to be wrong. Hamas was not defeated, and when Israel eventually had to resume supplying food through its distribution organization, the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation, it was so bungled that countless Gazans were dying each day swarming the Israeli distribution sites.

Hamas, Tibon noted, having seen “that Netanyahu’s blockade and starvation strategy had become a P.R. disaster for Israel, raised its demands in the ongoing hostage negotiations.” The bottom line, he concluded, is this: “Netanyahu dragged Trump and Witkoff into adopting a failed policy — one that returned no living hostages, cost the lives of nearly 50 Israeli soldiers since the war was resumed in March, led to the deaths of thousands of Palestinian civilians and precipitated a full-blown humanitarian disaster. The consequences of this failure will haunt Israel for years.”

Alas, it will haunt Palestinians as well, because I fear it has improved the chances that Hamas will come out of this war without having to cede power in Gaza. Bibi and Hamas have been tacitly enabling each other’s political survival for decades. It is quite possible that this disastrous war will end with both of them still in power.

If that is the case, say goodbye to any two-state solution and hello to a forever war. Because, to paraphrase the philosopher Immanuel Kant, out of the crooked timber of Bibi and Hamas no straight thing will ever be made.


Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/29/opinion/gaza-netanyahu-trump-israel-starvation.html

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Replies to: "Indeed. Of course."

  • Indeed. Of course. [LINK] - conorlarkin - 2:10pm 7/29/25 (59) [View All]
    • If Hamas never attacked Israeli civilians, there would be no war. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 7:47pm 7/29/25
      • Go to the head of the class, Genius. Thanks for connecting the dots for us. [NT] - conorlarkin - 8:33pm 7/29/25
        • Was this meant for the author of the OpEd? [NT] - iairishcheeks - 9:01pm 7/29/25
      • Bingo. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 8:17pm 7/29/25
      • They would say:If Israel didn't oppress the Gazans, Hamas wouldn't have raped and beheaded innocents - iairishcheeks - 8:05pm 7/29/25
        • Just hang around a bit…Tyrone will have AI solve the chicken/egg conundrum for you. - TakethetrainKnute - 9:14pm 7/29/25
          • All paths eventually lead to "kill the Jews". [LINK] - iairishcheeks - 9:20pm 7/29/25
      • 100% No Dispute [NT] - ColeyO - 7:58pm 7/29/25
    • There was never going to be a two-state solution - wrdomerson - 5:57pm 7/29/25
      • At this point, the Palestinians will be lucky to get 3 city blocks… - Domer From Hell - 8:02pm 7/29/25
      • True words. [NT] - Hensou - 6:09pm 7/29/25
      • Hamas are the worst. End of story, full stop. Bibi though wants peace as little as - Frank L - 6:03pm 7/29/25
    • All well said. And what I posted earlier this week: both sides are led by assholes. - Chris94 - 3:58pm 7/29/25
      • Should we consider that in asshole vs asshole war, that asshole.Trump is the one calling for peace? - iairishcheeks - 1:32am 7/30/25
        • Yes. But calling for ethnic cleansing does not help. - Chris94 - 8:27am 7/30/25
      • Liberalism Rule #24: “Both sides do it”. You are a treasure Chris. This is the newest rule & you - BaronVonZemo - 8:12pm 7/29/25
      • Do you think FDR was an asshole? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 6:07pm 7/29/25
        • Not if he was Islamocentric in his policies. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 9:14am 7/30/25
        • No. But those who always argue with idiotic analogies are. [NT] - Chris94 - 1:17am 7/30/25
          • Why is Netanyahu an asshole, but FDR not? - NedoftheHill - 1:25pm 7/30/25
          • You don't think internment was assholish behavior to the max? - iairishcheeks - 1:49am 7/30/25
            • I’m just tired of the whataboutisms. [NT] - Chris94 - 8:28am 7/30/25
              • The author of the Op-Ed argues that this war is different - iairishcheeks - 10:47am 7/30/25
        • Sometimes. See Japanese American internment. - Frank L - 6:21pm 7/29/25
          • I would like to hear Chris94's answer. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 7:46pm 7/29/25
            • Whelp, goody, goody. Perhaps he will oblige you, [NT] - Frank L - 7:59pm 7/29/25
              • I doubt it. He would have to criticize a Dem icon. He knows FDR was worse than Netanyahu is now. - NedoftheHill - 9:25pm 7/29/25
                • Dropping the atomic bombs saved lives. Would you rather have invaded? - Frank L - 10:18pm 7/29/25
                  • Again, I'm wondering if Chris94 will be logically consistent, or a party hack. - NedoftheHill - 12:44am 7/30/25
    • Yes, Indeed...TF has been spot on wrt the Middle East throughout his career...as he mentioned in an - TyroneIrish - 3:34pm 7/29/25
    • Yes, War should be nice and neat where everyone is well cared for. - Hensou - 2:25pm 7/29/25
      • Perhaps you should familiarize yourself with the Geneva Conventions. - conorlarkin - 3:12pm 7/29/25
        • perhaps you should familiarize yourself with october 7th. - und67 - 3:48pm 7/29/25
          • Boom. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 8:18pm 7/29/25
          • Israeli Times: "For Years Now, Netanyahu Has Propped Up Hamas, Now It's Blown Up In Our Faces"... [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 6:58pm 7/29/25
          • No question. Hamas is awful and needs to be exterminated. - Chris94 - 3:59pm 7/29/25
          • Thank you Lt Calley. [NT] - conorlarkin - 3:59pm 7/29/25
            • Uncalled for. Everything und67 said was true. [NT] - Hensou - 4:32pm 7/29/25
              • 67’s post clearly suggests that the suffering and starvation is justified. - conorlarkin - 4:37pm 7/29/25
                • it most certainly does not infer anything of the kind. - und67 - 8:02pm 7/29/25
                  • This thread addresses the humanitarian crisis in Gaza. - conorlarkin - 9:15pm 7/29/25
                    • october 7th was cited because it is the root cause of the humanitarian crisis. - und67 - 8:01am 7/30/25
                    • You think Hamas is irrelevant to this crisis? - Hensou - 1:42am 7/30/25
                      • Who here has ever suggested that Hamas is not at the core of crisis? - conorlarkin - 8:29am 7/30/25
                        • "What is the relevance to the immediate humanitarian crisis?" - Hensou - 10:22am 7/30/25
                • FaFo [NT] - ColeyO - 7:53pm 7/29/25
                • He does not. Your inference is absurd. [NT] - Hensou - 4:44pm 7/29/25
                • Obviously he thinks the Palestinians deserve everything Israel gives rhem - Chris94 - 4:39pm 7/29/25
                  • It’s a shit sandwich no matter how you look at it… - Domer From Hell - 4:56pm 7/29/25
                    • No one should ever have anything good to say about Hamas - Chris94 - 5:09pm 7/29/25
                      • Disagree regarding your claimed recklessness… - Domer From Hell - 8:00pm 7/29/25
                  • Where does he explicitly state that? In your imagination? [NT] - Hensou - 4:46pm 7/29/25
                    • Where does he explicitly state anything different? - Chris94 - 4:49pm 7/29/25
                      • Being argumentative is putting your words in his mouth. - Hensou - 4:55pm 7/29/25
        • Perhaps you should realize that the USA is not at War. - Hensou - 3:20pm 7/29/25
          • Perhaps I simply recall every other US President playing an active role in Israel Palestine conflict [NT] [IMAGE] - conorlarkin - 3:33pm 7/29/25
            • The current conflict began under Biden's watch. He was asleep at the wheel of Peace. - Hensou - 3:38pm 7/29/25
              • Biden failed to resolve the war, in large part because Netanyahu sabotaged any peace efforts. - conorlarkin - 3:57pm 7/29/25
                • You had me at Biden failed. [NT] - Hensou - 4:30pm 7/29/25
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