You want me to research and debate Carl Sagan before you'll answer a simple question?

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You want me to research and debate Carl Sagan before you'll answer a simple question?

Author: jakers (13986 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:22 pm on Aug 7, 2025

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I'm not qualified to critique Carl Sagan one way or another - no one on this board is. I'm asking you to explain your moving goalposts. You can't.

Replies to: "You want me to research and debate Carl Sagan before you'll answer a simple question?"

ICE Deportations are starting to impact U.S. harvests...and consumers' pocketbooks... - TyroneIrish - 11:02am 8/7/25 (56) [View All]
- Time to annex Mexico (after Canada and Greenland, of course). [NT] - NedoftheHill - 11:45pm 8/7/25
- Isn't it kind of immoral to put your pocketbook over human rights? - iairishcheeks - 12:31pm 8/7/25
  - What’s your solution to this problem? [NT] - TyroneIrish - 12:38pm 8/7/25
    - We've been over this but you are incapable of learning: pay a fair wage with benefits. - iairishcheeks - 12:42pm 8/7/25
      - What makes you think I disagree with you? I’m the one who posted the Texas - TyroneIrish - 12:46pm 8/7/25
        Read your own posts, have a little self awareness. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 12:47pm 8/7/25
        I just referred you to the one that addresses your concern…I wrote it ;-)…now it’s your turn to read - TyroneIrish - 1:23pm 8/7/25
        
        Good luck with that [NT] - Frankx - 1:10pm 8/7/25
        Always there with the “Leastest”, Fx…a paragon of consistency… [NT] - TyroneIrish - 1:25pm 8/7/25
  - Let me check with AI. - TakethetrainKnute - 12:38pm 8/7/25
    - Do your own AI query as to whether ICE raids/deportations are impacting U.S. harvests…show us - TyroneIrish - 12:43pm 8/7/25
      - Did you listen to the AI podcast I posted below? [NT] - iairishcheeks - 12:44pm 8/7/25
    - Pretty sure he shops around to find the summary that fits the desired narrative. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 12:40pm 8/7/25
      - You’re pretty sure of many things…especially things you can’t prove. [NT] - TyroneIrish - 12:58pm 8/7/25
        Notice you didn't deny it. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 12:59pm 8/7/25
        (Chuckling)…falls under the category of “When did you stop beating your wife”…don’t expect - TyroneIrish - 1:16pm 8/7/25
        Actually, it doesn't. You could deny it without admitting anything. (LOL) [NT] - NedoftheHill - 1:29pm 8/7/25
        He could also just change the subject (his normal modus) or not respond at all. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 1:42pm 8/7/25
        Tomorrow will be 3 months since I asked him about Bernie and private jets. - jakers - 2:35pm 8/7/25
        And you still haven't responded to my OP of that thread regarding Carl Sagan's remarks on CC... - TyroneIrish - 4:44pm 8/7/25
        You want me to research and debate Carl Sagan before you'll answer a simple question? - jakers - 5:22pm 8/7/25
        Sadly, a debate with Carl Sagan is no longer possible...all you have to do is watch his presentation - TyroneIrish - 8:16pm 8/7/25
        
        ...and then accuse you of doing that. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 1:56pm 8/7/25
      - Yep... - TakethetrainKnute - 12:49pm 8/7/25
        LOL…all you have to do is ask your own question…what are you afraid of?…i’ll - TyroneIrish - 12:56pm 8/7/25
        Do you want me to train a model to post as you? It would save you a lot of time. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 12:57pm 8/7/25
        Getting the folks who trained him would save even more time... [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 1:01pm 8/7/25
        When you’re done Fantasizing come back and deal with the issue at hand. [NT] - TyroneIrish - 1:10pm 8/7/25
        
        Just do your own query of whether or not ICE deportations are impacting harvests…show us - TyroneIrish - 1:01pm 8/7/25
        My point isn't about that, you know this but you're a dishonest person. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 3:59pm 8/7/25
        Thanks for admitting that you're avoiding the question of whether ICE is impacting harvests... [NT] - TyroneIrish - 4:57pm 8/7/25
        You disingenuous moron. - iairishcheeks - 5:46pm 8/7/25
- Trump would be wise to look the other way when it comes to agricultural workers. - Curly1918 - 11:39am 8/7/25
  - Your awareness and understanding of this issue are lacking...DJT's actions are harmful...not helpful - TyroneIrish - 12:02pm 8/7/25
    - The Biden administration's immigration agenda was rejected in the last Presidential election. [NT] - Curly1918 - 12:18pm 8/7/25
      - And the 2024 election result “Regret Rate” continues to grow…especially wrt this issue. - TyroneIrish - 12:28pm 8/7/25
        Political weather vanes shift direction very frequently... especially in non-election cycles. [LINK] - Curly1918 - 4:12pm 8/7/25
        "Real Clear Polling" has taken a hard turn to the right (see link), but with even Republicans [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 5:27pm 8/7/25
- Where is this supposedly happening? [NT] - PaND - 11:35am 8/7/25
  - Everywhere! It's why Trump needs to legalize undocumented farmworkers [LINK] - Curly1918 - 11:45am 8/7/25
- Should Trump ignore immigration laws? What other laws should Trump ignore, in your opinion? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 11:27am 8/7/25
  - He’s already ignoring Immigration Laws …does “Due Process” ring any bells? [NT] - TyroneIrish - 12:32pm 8/7/25
    - Not as much as you would ignore them. What other laws should he ignore? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 12:48pm 8/7/25
      - LOL…you just brush that one aside!?…I thought all that legal training would sensitize you - TyroneIrish - 1:07pm 8/7/25
        You've now brushed aside my question twice. - NedoftheHill - 1:22pm 8/7/25
        Read the 'Message' portion of my post...which refers you to the Comprehensive Bipartisan Senate - TyroneIrish - 5:07pm 8/7/25
        . [NT] - TyroneIrish - 8:52pm 8/7/25
        
        He ignores questions inconvenient to his narratives. I have first-hand experience with this [NT] - MarkHarman - 3:34pm 8/7/25
        I feel dirty when I post back and forth with him. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 7:48pm 8/7/25
        The sunlight from reading the bipartisan Senate Bill's improvements will cleanse you, Ned ;-)... - TyroneIrish - 12:23am 8/8/25
        
        One thing for sure I haven't done is "Ignore" you and your questions, Mark. [NT] - TyroneIrish - 5:12pm 8/7/25
        Okay, put your money where your mouth is - MarkHarman - 5:53pm 8/7/25
        Were there any Controls involved in the studies?...the answer is no...however, the NEJM study of - TyroneIrish - 8:46pm 8/7/25
        So once again you refuse to answer the question and dodge it - MarkHarman - 10:21pm 8/7/25
        It's clear you don't understand that not all studies are of equal value or validity...it's why RCTs - TyroneIrish - 12:34am 8/8/25