Sadly, a debate with Carl Sagan is no longer possible...all you have to do is watch his presentation

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Sadly, a debate with Carl Sagan is no longer possible...all you have to do is watch his presentation

Author: TyroneIrish (21075 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 8:16 pm on Aug 7, 2025

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and comment on the details he notes in support of taking action to deal with Climate Change...that was the purpose of my Thread Starter...you haven't done that yet...i.e. you continue to avoid the question raised in that OP...shame on you, Jake.

Replies to: "Sadly, a debate with Carl Sagan is no longer possible...all you have to do is watch his presentation"

ICE Deportations are starting to impact U.S. harvests...and consumers' pocketbooks... - TyroneIrish - 11:02am 8/7/25 (56) [View All]
- Time to annex Mexico (after Canada and Greenland, of course). [NT] - NedoftheHill - 11:45pm 8/7/25
- Isn't it kind of immoral to put your pocketbook over human rights? - iairishcheeks - 12:31pm 8/7/25
  - What’s your solution to this problem? [NT] - TyroneIrish - 12:38pm 8/7/25
    - We've been over this but you are incapable of learning: pay a fair wage with benefits. - iairishcheeks - 12:42pm 8/7/25
      - What makes you think I disagree with you? I’m the one who posted the Texas - TyroneIrish - 12:46pm 8/7/25
        Read your own posts, have a little self awareness. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 12:47pm 8/7/25
        I just referred you to the one that addresses your concern…I wrote it ;-)…now it’s your turn to read - TyroneIrish - 1:23pm 8/7/25
        
        Good luck with that [NT] - Frankx - 1:10pm 8/7/25
        Always there with the “Leastest”, Fx…a paragon of consistency… [NT] - TyroneIrish - 1:25pm 8/7/25
  - Let me check with AI. - TakethetrainKnute - 12:38pm 8/7/25
    - Do your own AI query as to whether ICE raids/deportations are impacting U.S. harvests…show us - TyroneIrish - 12:43pm 8/7/25
      - Did you listen to the AI podcast I posted below? [NT] - iairishcheeks - 12:44pm 8/7/25
    - Pretty sure he shops around to find the summary that fits the desired narrative. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 12:40pm 8/7/25
      - You’re pretty sure of many things…especially things you can’t prove. [NT] - TyroneIrish - 12:58pm 8/7/25
        Notice you didn't deny it. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 12:59pm 8/7/25
        (Chuckling)…falls under the category of “When did you stop beating your wife”…don’t expect - TyroneIrish - 1:16pm 8/7/25
        Actually, it doesn't. You could deny it without admitting anything. (LOL) [NT] - NedoftheHill - 1:29pm 8/7/25
        He could also just change the subject (his normal modus) or not respond at all. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 1:42pm 8/7/25
        Tomorrow will be 3 months since I asked him about Bernie and private jets. - jakers - 2:35pm 8/7/25
        And you still haven't responded to my OP of that thread regarding Carl Sagan's remarks on CC... - TyroneIrish - 4:44pm 8/7/25
        You want me to research and debate Carl Sagan before you'll answer a simple question? - jakers - 5:22pm 8/7/25
        Sadly, a debate with Carl Sagan is no longer possible...all you have to do is watch his presentation - TyroneIrish - 8:16pm 8/7/25
        
        ...and then accuse you of doing that. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 1:56pm 8/7/25
      - Yep... - TakethetrainKnute - 12:49pm 8/7/25
        LOL…all you have to do is ask your own question…what are you afraid of?…i’ll - TyroneIrish - 12:56pm 8/7/25
        Do you want me to train a model to post as you? It would save you a lot of time. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 12:57pm 8/7/25
        Getting the folks who trained him would save even more time... [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 1:01pm 8/7/25
        When you’re done Fantasizing come back and deal with the issue at hand. [NT] - TyroneIrish - 1:10pm 8/7/25
        
        Just do your own query of whether or not ICE deportations are impacting harvests…show us - TyroneIrish - 1:01pm 8/7/25
        My point isn't about that, you know this but you're a dishonest person. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 3:59pm 8/7/25
        Thanks for admitting that you're avoiding the question of whether ICE is impacting harvests... [NT] - TyroneIrish - 4:57pm 8/7/25
        You disingenuous moron. - iairishcheeks - 5:46pm 8/7/25
- Trump would be wise to look the other way when it comes to agricultural workers. - Curly1918 - 11:39am 8/7/25
  - Your awareness and understanding of this issue are lacking...DJT's actions are harmful...not helpful - TyroneIrish - 12:02pm 8/7/25
    - The Biden administration's immigration agenda was rejected in the last Presidential election. [NT] - Curly1918 - 12:18pm 8/7/25
      - And the 2024 election result “Regret Rate” continues to grow…especially wrt this issue. - TyroneIrish - 12:28pm 8/7/25
        Political weather vanes shift direction very frequently... especially in non-election cycles. [LINK] - Curly1918 - 4:12pm 8/7/25
        "Real Clear Polling" has taken a hard turn to the right (see link), but with even Republicans [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 5:27pm 8/7/25
- Where is this supposedly happening? [NT] - PaND - 11:35am 8/7/25
  - Everywhere! It's why Trump needs to legalize undocumented farmworkers [LINK] - Curly1918 - 11:45am 8/7/25
- Should Trump ignore immigration laws? What other laws should Trump ignore, in your opinion? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 11:27am 8/7/25
  - He’s already ignoring Immigration Laws …does “Due Process” ring any bells? [NT] - TyroneIrish - 12:32pm 8/7/25
    - Not as much as you would ignore them. What other laws should he ignore? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 12:48pm 8/7/25
      - LOL…you just brush that one aside!?…I thought all that legal training would sensitize you - TyroneIrish - 1:07pm 8/7/25
        You've now brushed aside my question twice. - NedoftheHill - 1:22pm 8/7/25
        Read the 'Message' portion of my post...which refers you to the Comprehensive Bipartisan Senate - TyroneIrish - 5:07pm 8/7/25
        . [NT] - TyroneIrish - 8:52pm 8/7/25
        
        He ignores questions inconvenient to his narratives. I have first-hand experience with this [NT] - MarkHarman - 3:34pm 8/7/25
        I feel dirty when I post back and forth with him. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 7:48pm 8/7/25
        The sunlight from reading the bipartisan Senate Bill's improvements will cleanse you, Ned ;-)... - TyroneIrish - 12:23am 8/8/25
        
        One thing for sure I haven't done is "Ignore" you and your questions, Mark. [NT] - TyroneIrish - 5:12pm 8/7/25
        Okay, put your money where your mouth is - MarkHarman - 5:53pm 8/7/25
        Were there any Controls involved in the studies?...the answer is no...however, the NEJM study of - TyroneIrish - 8:46pm 8/7/25
        So once again you refuse to answer the question and dodge it - MarkHarman - 10:21pm 8/7/25
        It's clear you don't understand that not all studies are of equal value or validity...it's why RCTs - TyroneIrish - 12:34am 8/8/25