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He doesn’t want peace & certainly not the only viable resolution….

Author: BaronVonZemo (61067 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)
Posted at 8:45 am on Aug 9, 2025
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…..which is to draw a line where Russia occupies and call it there (which I have said before).

The problem the Uk really face is that they cannot push Russia back without triggering nuclear conflict.

It’s far from a good deal for them, it is simply the best deal for them. The alternative is constant war, and probably an eventual takeover of their whole country - or WWIII. The US cannot fund this hopeless and non ending conflict forever.

Zelensky is a wannabe dictator who also has revenge in his heart. His people are living a horrible existence.
Putin is worse - he is an in place dictator with eyes on taking anything that he can.

What stops Putin from moving forward again?
Military threat:
A stronger EU army, no more GREEN LIGHT speeches or messaging from the US president, and a clearly conveyed, sincere willingness to get directly involved by the entire western world if they do.
In the future, if Russia masses troops on a border, the US and EU do the same rather than watch it for a month and a half like Biden did (and remember Biden had a past history that Putin remembered of doing NOTHING when he invaded Crimea.
The US and EU also send clear signals by cutting off all trade rather than (for example as happened) assist Russia with its oil delivery project to Europe.
The EU really needs to get off of its ass for the first time in nearly a century now.

This was a horrid Biden Mess left to be fixed. And even though Biden completely enabled the monster Putin in his efforts, his Democratbase will see any peace solution as capitulation to Putin.

But ask: Who promised Ukraine protection when they were convinced to give up their nukes in the 90’s (Budapest Memorandum 1994)? Bill Clinton.
Who failed to deliver on that promise when Putin invaded Crimea? Barack Obama and Joe Biden
Who told Putin a that a limited invasion could be tolerable - and then later tried unsuccessfully to put the words back in his mouth? Joe Biden.

This is less than ideal, but the Dems already guaranteed no chance at the optimal outcome with Putin which was not allowing an invasion in the first place.


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Replies to: "He doesn’t want peace & certainly not the only viable resolution…."

  • Zelenskyy isn’t helping matters. [NT] - Hensou - 8:11am 8/9/25 (47) [View All]
    • Moron Alert: HENSOU - OCIrish - 10:17pm 8/11/25
    • He can do a deal or he will lose more men and more land. The - Cole - 1:40pm 8/9/25
      • Of course, Vlad. Hey, where’s your buddy, Eli? Did ICE catch up with him?… - Domer From Hell - 1:47pm 8/9/25
        • What a stupid post. I think even Mark would agree with me. [NT] - Cole - 2:24pm 8/9/25
          • So, ICE did catch up with your boy. Oh the irony. [NT] - Domer From Hell - 2:26pm 8/9/25
    • Yeah, he stubbornly keeps defending his nation - Chris94 - 9:26am 8/9/25
      • He’s like a guy who needs a lower leg amputation to save his life and refuses the operation. [NT] - Hensou - 9:34am 8/9/25
        • Good analogy except there is a shark on his leg and if he doesn't cut it off, it'll eat him whole. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 2:34pm 8/9/25
        • Utter stupidity [NT] - Domer From Hell - 1:45pm 8/9/25
    • He doesn’t want peace & certainly not the only viable resolution…. - BaronVonZemo - 8:45am 8/9/25
      • Ridiculous. “He doesn’t want peace.” His nation has been invaded… - Domer From Hell - 10:29am 8/9/25
        • Yes, and he would have to face elections & give up power. He's just less bad. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 2:21pm 8/9/25
          • Get acquainted with the Ukrainian Constitution. No elections during a state of martial law. [NT] - Domer From Hell - 2:24pm 8/9/25
        • And he is worried Trump will give Putin whatever he wants - Chris94 - 10:41am 8/9/25
          • What is your endpoint, junior? - BaronVonZemo - 2:28pm 8/9/25
          • Yep. Trump already said he believes there will be lost territory… - Domer From Hell - 10:45am 8/9/25
    • Because he’s not submissive to Putin? [NT] - conorlarkin - 8:41am 8/9/25
      • Like Obama when Putin invaded Crimea? Like Biden when he gave his Green Light speech to Putin? - BaronVonZemo - 8:58am 8/9/25
        • What would you have done if you were in charge during those incidents?… - Domer From Hell - 10:33am 8/9/25
          • I know-we've covered this. But he banned all rival political parties & closed the churches. Those - BaronVonZemo - 2:26pm 8/9/25
            • Nope. He outlawed the Russian “puppets” and rightly so. [NT] - Domer From Hell - 2:27pm 8/9/25
              • Rival parites became "Russian puppets", eh? I stand by my post. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 2:31pm 8/9/25
                • Here you go… - Domer From Hell - 2:34pm 8/9/25
                  • How does this not fit with dictatorship? [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 2:36pm 8/9/25
                    • You always fall back on that false premise. Once again and I’ll type slowly… - Domer From Hell - 2:41pm 8/9/25
                      • I understand that. He is still behaving like a dictator & not always in best interests of his people [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 2:45pm 8/9/25
                        • What’s best for his people? Ceding territory, appeasing Putin? - Domer From Hell - 2:50pm 8/9/25
                          • You have to be alive to enjoy territory. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 6:33pm 8/9/25
                            • So,, surrender is the only option. Got it [NT] - Domer From Hell - 7:23pm 8/9/25
                              • No. Just accept the loss and be proud of what you saved - best that could've been done given - BaronVonZemo - 1:49am 8/10/25
                                • Accept the loss = surrender. I don’t see the Ukraine surrendering… - Domer From Hell - 2:05am 8/10/25
                • Rival parties that were Putin cocksuckers…yes and most if not all of them were [NT] - Domer From Hell - 2:32pm 8/9/25
                  • Z claims that...and all 11 of them? [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 2:35pm 8/9/25
                    • Yes and I believe he’d know better than you. [NT] - Domer From Hell - 2:42pm 8/9/25
                      • So, we are to trust him....the guy who has grabbed the power.... - BaronVonZemo - 2:45pm 8/9/25
                        • We? I trust him and people with common sense trust him, but you people… - Domer From Hell - 3:13pm 8/9/25
            • . [NT] - Domer From Hell - 2:27pm 8/9/25
          • I'd have bolstered them from the start before they came in, Not allowed our aid for their pipeline, - BaronVonZemo - 2:24pm 8/9/25
            • Bolstered what and with who? [NT] - Domer From Hell - 2:44pm 8/9/25
              • With the arms they asked for that Biden wouldn't give them until weeks after the actual invasion - BaronVonZemo - 2:47pm 8/9/25
                • No you wouldn’t have. You’re a Trumper. [NT] - Domer From Hell - 2:52pm 8/9/25
      • He’s in no position to dictate absolutes. [NT] - Hensou - 8:47am 8/9/25
        • Libs wrongly think Trump is negotiating for Zelensky. He is not. He is negotiating for the US. - BaronVonZemo - 2:39pm 8/9/25
          • Exactly. - Hensou - 6:25pm 8/9/25
          • Ha! No one is mistaking these negotiations as help to the Ukraine. Trump’s main concern is the… - Domer From Hell - 2:47pm 8/9/25
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