Putin had troops amassed on Ukraines border for around 6 weeks with no response from the US or EU and a past history of allowing the Crimean incursion and takeover. And then that Green Light message from. Biden, AND the message from Biden that the US is going to end Trump’s ban on helping Russia complete their Nordstream II pipeline under the Black Sea to allow making even MORE money selling overly dependent Europe it’s oil while dismantling Trumps efforts to try to provide Europe its needs instead.
Putin expected no resistance at all. The US leader had already capitulated in the past, and Europe needed its oil to heat homes in the winter.
And he would have gotten none of Ukraine had surprised everyone by hanging on for so long.
Like Obama when Putin invaded Crimea? Like Biden when he gave his Green Light speech to Putin?
Replies to: "Like Obama when Putin invaded Crimea? Like Biden when he gave his Green Light speech to Putin?"
- Zelenskyy isn’t helping matters. [NT]
- Hensou - 8:11am 8/9/25
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- Moron Alert: HENSOU - OCIrish - 10:17pm 8/11/25
- He can do a deal or he will lose more men and more land. The - Cole - 1:40pm 8/9/25
- Of course, Vlad. Hey, where’s your buddy, Eli? Did ICE catch up with him?… - Domer From Hell - 1:47pm 8/9/25
- What a stupid post. I think even Mark would agree with me. [NT]
- Cole - 2:24pm 8/9/25
- So, ICE did catch up with your boy. Oh the irony. [NT] - Domer From Hell - 2:26pm 8/9/25
- What a stupid post. I think even Mark would agree with me. [NT]
- Cole - 2:24pm 8/9/25
- Of course, Vlad. Hey, where’s your buddy, Eli? Did ICE catch up with him?… - Domer From Hell - 1:47pm 8/9/25
- Yeah, he stubbornly keeps defending his nation - Chris94 - 9:26am 8/9/25
- He’s like a guy who needs a lower leg amputation to save his life and refuses the operation. [NT]
- Hensou - 9:34am 8/9/25
- Good analogy except there is a shark on his leg and if he doesn't cut it off, it'll eat him whole. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 2:34pm 8/9/25
- Utter stupidity [NT] - Domer From Hell - 1:45pm 8/9/25
- He’s like a guy who needs a lower leg amputation to save his life and refuses the operation. [NT]
- Hensou - 9:34am 8/9/25
- He doesn’t want peace & certainly not the only viable resolution…. - BaronVonZemo - 8:45am 8/9/25
- Ridiculous. “He doesn’t want peace.” His nation has been invaded… - Domer From Hell - 10:29am 8/9/25
- Yes, and he would have to face elections & give up power. He's just less bad. [NT]
- BaronVonZemo - 2:21pm 8/9/25
- Get acquainted with the Ukrainian Constitution. No elections during a state of martial law. [NT] - Domer From Hell - 2:24pm 8/9/25
- And he is worried Trump will give Putin whatever he wants - Chris94 - 10:41am 8/9/25
- What is your endpoint, junior? - BaronVonZemo - 2:28pm 8/9/25
- Yep. Trump already said he believes there will be lost territory… - Domer From Hell - 10:45am 8/9/25
- Yes, and he would have to face elections & give up power. He's just less bad. [NT]
- BaronVonZemo - 2:21pm 8/9/25
- Ridiculous. “He doesn’t want peace.” His nation has been invaded… - Domer From Hell - 10:29am 8/9/25
- Because he’s not submissive to Putin? [NT]
- conorlarkin - 8:41am 8/9/25
- Like Obama when Putin invaded Crimea? Like Biden when he gave his Green Light speech to Putin? - BaronVonZemo - 8:58am 8/9/25
- What would you have done if you were in charge during those incidents?… - Domer From Hell - 10:33am 8/9/25
- I know-we've covered this. But he banned all rival political parties & closed the churches. Those - BaronVonZemo - 2:26pm 8/9/25
- Nope. He outlawed the Russian “puppets” and rightly so. [NT]
- Domer From Hell - 2:27pm 8/9/25
- Rival parites became "Russian puppets", eh? I stand by my post. [NT]
- BaronVonZemo - 2:31pm 8/9/25
- Here you go… - Domer From Hell - 2:34pm 8/9/25
- How does this not fit with dictatorship? [NT]
- BaronVonZemo - 2:36pm 8/9/25
- You always fall back on that false premise. Once again and I’ll type slowly… - Domer From Hell - 2:41pm 8/9/25
- I understand that. He is still behaving like a dictator & not always in best interests of his people [NT]
- BaronVonZemo - 2:45pm 8/9/25
- What’s best for his people? Ceding territory, appeasing Putin? - Domer From Hell - 2:50pm 8/9/25
- You have to be alive to enjoy territory. [NT]
- BaronVonZemo - 6:33pm 8/9/25
- So,, surrender is the only option. Got it [NT]
- Domer From Hell - 7:23pm 8/9/25
- No. Just accept the loss and be proud of what you saved - best that could've been done given - BaronVonZemo - 1:49am 8/10/25
- Accept the loss = surrender. I don’t see the Ukraine surrendering… - Domer From Hell - 2:05am 8/10/25
- No. Just accept the loss and be proud of what you saved - best that could've been done given - BaronVonZemo - 1:49am 8/10/25
- So,, surrender is the only option. Got it [NT]
- Domer From Hell - 7:23pm 8/9/25
- You have to be alive to enjoy territory. [NT]
- BaronVonZemo - 6:33pm 8/9/25
- What’s best for his people? Ceding territory, appeasing Putin? - Domer From Hell - 2:50pm 8/9/25
- I understand that. He is still behaving like a dictator & not always in best interests of his people [NT]
- BaronVonZemo - 2:45pm 8/9/25
- You always fall back on that false premise. Once again and I’ll type slowly… - Domer From Hell - 2:41pm 8/9/25
- How does this not fit with dictatorship? [NT]
- BaronVonZemo - 2:36pm 8/9/25
- Rival parties that were Putin cocksuckers…yes and most if not all of them were [NT]
- Domer From Hell - 2:32pm 8/9/25
- Z claims that...and all 11 of them? [NT]
- BaronVonZemo - 2:35pm 8/9/25
- Yes and I believe he’d know better than you. [NT]
- Domer From Hell - 2:42pm 8/9/25
- So, we are to trust him....the guy who has grabbed the power.... - BaronVonZemo - 2:45pm 8/9/25
- We? I trust him and people with common sense trust him, but you people… - Domer From Hell - 3:13pm 8/9/25
- So, we are to trust him....the guy who has grabbed the power.... - BaronVonZemo - 2:45pm 8/9/25
- Yes and I believe he’d know better than you. [NT]
- Domer From Hell - 2:42pm 8/9/25
- Z claims that...and all 11 of them? [NT]
- BaronVonZemo - 2:35pm 8/9/25
- Here you go… - Domer From Hell - 2:34pm 8/9/25
- Rival parites became "Russian puppets", eh? I stand by my post. [NT]
- BaronVonZemo - 2:31pm 8/9/25
- . [NT] - Domer From Hell - 2:27pm 8/9/25
- Nope. He outlawed the Russian “puppets” and rightly so. [NT]
- Domer From Hell - 2:27pm 8/9/25
- I'd have bolstered them from the start before they came in, Not allowed our aid for their pipeline, - BaronVonZemo - 2:24pm 8/9/25
- Bolstered what and with who? [NT]
- Domer From Hell - 2:44pm 8/9/25
- With the arms they asked for that Biden wouldn't give them until weeks after the actual invasion - BaronVonZemo - 2:47pm 8/9/25
- No you wouldn’t have. You’re a Trumper. [NT] - Domer From Hell - 2:52pm 8/9/25
- With the arms they asked for that Biden wouldn't give them until weeks after the actual invasion - BaronVonZemo - 2:47pm 8/9/25
- Bolstered what and with who? [NT]
- Domer From Hell - 2:44pm 8/9/25
- I know-we've covered this. But he banned all rival political parties & closed the churches. Those - BaronVonZemo - 2:26pm 8/9/25
- What would you have done if you were in charge during those incidents?… - Domer From Hell - 10:33am 8/9/25
- He’s in no position to dictate absolutes. [NT]
- Hensou - 8:47am 8/9/25
- Libs wrongly think Trump is negotiating for Zelensky. He is not. He is negotiating for the US. - BaronVonZemo - 2:39pm 8/9/25
- Exactly. - Hensou - 6:25pm 8/9/25
- Ha! No one is mistaking these negotiations as help to the Ukraine. Trump’s main concern is the… - Domer From Hell - 2:47pm 8/9/25
- Libs wrongly think Trump is negotiating for Zelensky. He is not. He is negotiating for the US. - BaronVonZemo - 2:39pm 8/9/25
- Like Obama when Putin invaded Crimea? Like Biden when he gave his Green Light speech to Putin? - BaronVonZemo - 8:58am 8/9/25